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  Reply # 203692 27-Mar-2009 10:18 Send private message

nate: Can you pull recordings off a TiVo (via network), or are they locked into the device?


There's an option called TiVoToGo
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat80500050006&type=category

it's free with subscription based american tivos, not too sure what they'll do here

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  Reply # 203698 27-Mar-2009 11:03 Send private message

Hi Folks,

I just logged on to www.mytivo.co.nz to register my interest.

There are the usual disclaimers and requests for them to contact you, but there is an option for them to contact you for testing Tivo in NZ...

I'm certain some folks here would find that interesting...

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  Reply # 203716 27-Mar-2009 13:17 Send private message

Having MySky HDi and where we live I can't see any advantages for us to get it.




                                           

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  Reply # 203718 27-Mar-2009 13:21 Send private message

clevedon: Having MySky HDi and where we live I can't see any advantages for us to get it.


I would get a MySky in a heart beat if I could plug the device into my home network and transfer recordings off it.

The fact that Sky could do an upgrade and lose all my recordings is not something I'd be happy with.  From a practical point of view, I would transfer recordings off onto my laptop so I can watch them at work, on the train etc - I have no interest in sharing them with anyone else.

A web-interface for setting up records if I forget, when I'm away, would also be nice.




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  Reply # 203720 27-Mar-2009 13:41 Send private message

clevedon: Having MySky HDi and where we live I can't see any advantages for us to get it.


Tivo's potentially killer functionality is on-demand content. Want last weeks's Shortland St? Simply download it. TVNZ have a huge back catalogue that they obviously believe offers a significant business model.

MySky has this capability but at present Sky aren't using it - they have yet to go down the internet connectivity path with their boxes and offer an on-demand backend and internet based scheduling. I'm sure their plans will be being ramped up now.


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  Reply # 203723 27-Mar-2009 13:47 Send private message

sbiddle:

Tivo's potentially killer functionality is on-demand content. Want last weeks's Shortland St? Simply download it. TVNZ have a huge back catalogue that they obviously believe offers a significant business model.



That's right. They've mentioned so far they'll sign an agreement with Blockbuster.
But I would also expect this box to work with tvnzondemand, and that would be a first for a pvr.
By then, will they still offer all that content for free? I hope so, but I wouldn't bet on it

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  Reply # 203724 27-Mar-2009 13:49 Send private message

sbiddle:
clevedon: Having MySky HDi and where we live I can't see any advantages for us to get it.


Tivo's potentially killer functionality is on-demand content. Want last weeks's Shortland St? Simply download it. TVNZ have a huge back catalogue that they obviously believe offers a significant business model.

MySky has this capability but at present Sky aren't using it - they have yet to go down the internet connectivity path with their boxes and offer an on-demand backend and internet based scheduling. I'm sure their plans will be being ramped up now.



We don't watch FTA, so that doesn't interest us. Having a PS3 and wireless laptop to connect to the internet via TV along with Fatso I still see no advantages for us personally yet.




                                           

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  Reply # 203731 27-Mar-2009 14:35 Send private message

you have to wonder why skytv and tvnz don't just ring up apple and put their content in the itunes new zealand store. they could be making alot of money doing that instead of paying for a tivo licence. tv's are going to be extinct soon when live streaming starts to take off. it's all about the internet thesedays.


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  Reply # 203732 27-Mar-2009 14:55 Send private message

Apparently a distributor made hundreds of thousands of dollars on PPV via Sky in one month vs the tens of dollars they made on itunes.  Ondemand streaming will grow but its just way to early to bother with the cost and the royalties to Apple for TVNZ and Sky to bother.  Better for them to leverage their own developed OnDemand platforms.

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  Reply # 203734 27-Mar-2009 15:04 Send private message

Hard to say if we will get this here but the features I like about TiVo:

1. Off load content to a media PC or another TiVo via Ethernet or WiFi
2. Re-purpose content for a mobile device
3. Plug an external eSATA HDD into TiVo
4. Play 'other' content back through TiVo. Music, photos, video

Now, in order to pass the Freeview certification for a PVR (an expensive process) you are not allowed to move HD content off the PVR, you are not allowed to plug in an external hard drive, you can not share content to a PC or another PVR.

TiVo does not require the NZ MHEG5 stack which is expensive to implement and test. A direct conversion of TiVo AU price to NZ puts it at about $799 retail.

What would you rather have? Zinwell HD PVR @$999 or TiVo @$799?

This is why TiVo will kill the Freeview PVR and why it would be foolish trying to compete.




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  Reply # 203738 27-Mar-2009 15:14 Send private message

Considering the Australian TIVO box is mpeg 2 and NZ's will need to be mpeg 4 those prices are incorrect.

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  Reply # 203744 27-Mar-2009 15:36 Send private message

ventolin: Considering the Australian TIVO box is mpeg 2 and NZ's will need to be mpeg 4 those prices are incorrect.


I've read somewhere in the past that series 3 Tivo's have H.264 hardware already and it's simply not used at present. If this infact true then there is probably very little in terms of hardware development required for the NZ boxes.


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  Reply # 203745 27-Mar-2009 15:48 Send private message

sbiddle:
ventolin: Considering the Australian TIVO box is mpeg 2 and NZ's will need to be mpeg 4 those prices are incorrect.


I've read somewhere in the past that series 3 Tivo's have H.264 hardware already and it's simply not used at present. If this infact true then there is probably very little in terms of hardware development required for the NZ boxes.



Even if that's correct, that doesn't mean it will be $700-$800 here. If it is, I'd be very, very surprised! (smaller market, currency etc etc).

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  Reply # 203751 27-Mar-2009 16:04 Send private message

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  Reply # 203753 27-Mar-2009 16:28 Send private message

Jama: Hard to say if we will get this here but the features I like about TiVo:

Now, in order to pass the Freeview certification for a PVR (an expensive process) you are not allowed to move HD content off the PVR, you are not allowed to plug in an external hard drive, you can not share content to a PC or another PVR.

TiVo does not require the NZ MHEG5 stack which is expensive to implement and test.


I agree with what you wrote but it just doesn't make much sense.
Freeview is not exactly tvnz, but tvnz is their first customer right?
If they don't give a toss about being freeview approved (I personally don't) who would?

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