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Topic # 32166 15-Apr-2009 09:36 Send private message

Hey all,

Just been reading on the net about TiVo coming to New Zealand,

They state they are still looking for an ISP to partner with.

In Australia, TiVo have partnered with an ISP, with the added bonus of the TiVo content not counting towards the users internet bandwidth cap.

What if Orcon was the partner for TiVo in new Zealand for internet,

I see this could have a great strategy,

1) Orcon would have its logo etc all over with the TiVo marketing, the TiVo box sold at retailers such as Dick Smith Electronics, Harvey Norman, JB-HiFi... so people interested in the TiVo would see they need an Internet Connection to make it work, and Orcon would have its adverts right there with special sign up for TiVo or something.

2) An increase in Customer Base, more customers = more profit right?

3) Sure you may have to provide some sort of Bandwidth free limit for the TiVo, but wouldn't the media the TiVo uses come from a TiVo server situated in New Zealand? This would make sense if all the content for the TiVo was to come from a server hosted here in NZ, as the internet traffic would be local...

And Local traffic doesn't cost as such?

My thoughts, maybe you guys have already thought of this, maybe you haven’t.

A Proud Orcon customer :)

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  Reply # 207012 15-Apr-2009 09:53 Send private message

Or they could do it with Telecom, Telstra, Snap, Slingshot etc... I wouldn't be surprised to see them do it with Xnet judging by their history of partnering with suppliers of content.

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  Reply # 207015 15-Apr-2009 10:04 Send private message

IMHO I think tivo should try and get unmetered traffic with telecom, as that would be the largest audiance in New Zealand for broadband customers?




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  Reply # 207022 15-Apr-2009 10:21 Send private message

kingjj: Or they could do it with Telecom, Telstra, Snap, Slingshot etc... I wouldn't be surprised to see them do it with Xnet judging by their history of partnering with suppliers of content.


But with their history of poor bandwidth management etc it wouldnt be a good move....

Orcon would be a good choice (but maybe Im biased because I use them)




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  Reply # 207048 15-Apr-2009 11:46 Send private message

xpd:
kingjj: Or they could do it with Telecom, Telstra, Snap, Slingshot etc... I wouldn't be surprised to see them do it with Xnet judging by their history of partnering with suppliers of content.


But with their history of poor bandwidth management etc it wouldnt be a good move....

Orcon would be a good choice (but maybe Im biased because I use them)



I didn't say it was a good idea, haha. Perhaps considering Tivo NZ's relationship with TVNZ and the fact that Orcon is owned by Kordia (both state owned) there may be a good basis for a working relationship. I'm not sure if Telecom would be interested as they have a good relationship with Sky?

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  Reply # 207050 15-Apr-2009 12:13 Send private message

Telecom don't have a functional Sky customer offering any more.

That said, regarding the OP's original 'theories' - the same could be said about any ISP that would/could partner as a Tivo content/bandwidth provider.




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  Reply # 207067 15-Apr-2009 13:29 Send private message

I think NZ could do something drastically better with the TV solutions.
If only we had un-capped national data plans!  A cloud TV solution, where all the programs are on demand, and you can purchase movie rentals for live view stright off the net.  No need to RECORD anything.  Just select your favorite programs!  Watch them on your HD TV, and enjoy the hgih life.





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  Reply # 207076 15-Apr-2009 14:09 Send private message

kinsten:

I think NZ could do something drastically better with the TV solutions.
If only we had un-capped national data plans!  A cloud TV solution, where all the programs are on demand, and you can purchase movie rentals for live view stright off the net.  No need to RECORD anything.  Just select your favorite programs!  Watch them on your HD TV, and enjoy the hgih life.





While this would be an ideal solution, many people do not yet have connections that are fast enough, or connections that could sustain enough constant throughput for live, on-demand streaming to occur.




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  Reply # 213411 8-May-2009 11:38 Send private message

It looks like its going to be unmettered as orcon announced that TVNZ on demand traffic is now unmettered. And seeing as the online tivo stuff is through tvnz chances are high.

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  Reply # 213415 8-May-2009 11:52 Send private message

Falconz: It looks like its going to be unmettered as orcon announced that TVNZ on demand traffic is now unmettered. And seeing as the online tivo stuff is through tvnz chances are high.


Orcon and TVNZ will have to be *very* careful in their dealings over this, given that they are both owned by the Taxpayer, and that Orcon's parent Kordia (BCL) used to be part of TVNZ, It starts to look very incestuous.


I would be much happier seeing a number of ISP's being offered that ability to have relationships  with Tivo.

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  Reply # 213649 9-May-2009 12:35 Send private message

munchkin: Telecom don't have a functional Sky customer offering any more.


Our Sky account is linked through Telecom still, has been for years, don't know if you can still set it up like that now but we get a good deal with Phone, Broadband and Sky all on one Telecom account.




                                           

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  Reply # 213667 9-May-2009 14:46 Send private message

It hasn't been available since May 16th last year. Customers who already have the addon aren't affected if they choose to retain it.




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  Reply # 217329 23-May-2009 21:53 Send private message

Slightly off topic: what do you guys think of the disappearance of tvnzondemand.co.nz?
Before it was a nicely constructued, intuitive, pleasant web site.
Now it's a mere, obscure, subsection of tvnz.co.nz
There's no easy way to see all the show that are available for streaming. It relies mainly on RSS feeds (purely text ones) and on a search bar. Hardly TIVo friendly

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  Reply # 221517 4-Jun-2009 09:44 Send private message

ZiglioNZ: Slightly off topic: what do you guys think of the disappearance of tvnzondemand.co.nz?

Before it was a nicely constructued, intuitive, pleasant web site.

Now it's a mere, obscure, subsection of tvnz.co.nz

There's no easy way to see all the show that are available for streaming. It relies mainly on RSS feeds (purely text ones) and on a search bar. Hardly TIVo friendly




I dont like it, the old tvnzondemand had old shows from the 80s and all sorts of stuff, I cant find any of that on tvnz.co.nz


My first suspicions were that they took that service offline while they prepar it all for tivo integration etc...

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