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Topic # 33053 28-Apr-2009 19:15 Send private message

Anyone know details about recording, tuners etc.

Can you record two channels and watch a third?
Does it output on HDMI and Component at the same time?

Trying to decide if it's worth waiting for or I'm better off get a USB DVB-T tuner for my computer

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  Reply # 210436 29-Apr-2009 10:18 Send private message

From what I understand, the hardware is identical to that used in Australia. So that means dual tuners - you can record two channels and watch a prerecorded show, but you cannot watch a 3rd live show.  I would assume that it outputs SD over component at the same time as HD over HDMI.

The price in australia is AU$699 + another $99 to be able to move recordings over a network, which is equivalent to about NZ$900 ($1000 with networking package).



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  Reply # 210681 29-Apr-2009 21:06 Send private message

Sounds good as long as they have Prime. If not I'll keep my fingers crossed for a Pioneer/Sony PVR with Analogue + Digital tuners

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  Reply # 211408 1-May-2009 21:53 Send private message

catdog:The price in australia is AU$699 + another $99 to be able to move recordings over a network, which is equivalent to about NZ$900 ($1000 with networking package).


$900-$1000? Looks like most of the population (including myself) will be giving that a miss. Here was me hoping for some real prices.

$900 for a zinwell was a shocker, hopefully once tivo comes out zinwell's will drop in price :-)

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  Reply # 211439 1-May-2009 22:25 Send private message

I can sell you a series 1 tivo for cheap. :)




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  Reply # 211450 1-May-2009 22:33 Send private message

Lurch:
catdog:The price in australia is AU$699 + another $99 to be able to move recordings over a network, which is equivalent to about NZ$900 ($1000 with networking package).


$900-$1000? Looks like most of the population (including myself) will be giving that a miss. Here was me hoping for some real prices.

$900 for a zinwell was a shocker, hopefully once tivo comes out zinwell's will drop in price :-)


This pricing compare well with other markets.. What sort of price were you hoping a dual tuner PVR would come in at?




Generally known online as OpenMedia, now working for Red Hat New Zealand as a Solution Architect for all things Linux, Virtual and of course Cloud. Still playing with MythTV and digital media on the side.



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  Reply # 211453 1-May-2009 22:38 Send private message

I think part of the challenge Tivo face is the kinda people that would pay $900, probably already bought MySKY HDi/Blu-ray and maybe HTPCs

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  Reply # 211475 1-May-2009 23:15 Send private message

The main TV watchers out there have 2.5 children and no disposable income, so $900 to $1000 is not something that the mainstream out there can afford to go out and spend. When I was single sure not a problem I'd go out and spend $1000.



If the pricing was around $500-$700 this would be far more resonable. Maybe they should treat it like a gaming console, loose money on the hardware, get people watching, more people watching more advertising dollars earnt?



Anyway the Zinwell with it's stats to me is worth around the $599 mark. The other side of the coin, $1000 - You could join sky for $599 and have $400 left over to help pay for your sub. :-) (and get prime ;-))

Rough calculation that would be 6 months subscription with HD or 8 months without.




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  Reply # 211590 2-May-2009 09:28 Send private message

openmedia:
Lurch:
catdog:The price in australia is AU$699 + another $99 to be able to move recordings over a network, which is equivalent to about NZ$900 ($1000 with networking package).


$900-$1000? Looks like most of the population (including myself) will be giving that a miss. Here was me hoping for some real prices.

$900 for a zinwell was a shocker, hopefully once tivo comes out zinwell's will drop in price :-)



This pricing compare well with other markets.. What sort of price were you hoping a dual tuner PVR would come in at?


How about something along the lines of this??


https://www3.tivo.com/store/boxes.do?Wt.ac=shophome_whichDvr_boxeslist_img


 





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  Reply # 211596 2-May-2009 09:38 Send private message

Gemini: I think part of the challenge Tivo face is the kinda people that would pay $900, probably already bought MySKY HDi/Blu-ray and maybe HTPCs


But remember that you don't own a MySky..




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  Reply # 211599 2-May-2009 09:41 Send private message

openmedia:
Gemini: I think part of the challenge Tivo face is the kinda people that would pay $900, probably already bought MySKY HDi/Blu-ray and maybe HTPCs


But remember that you don't own a MySky..


Ok so their "HD" unit is US $299, but it doesn't mention H.264 support which we need here.

Plus the US units require a service plan at $12.95/month or $129/year.

Steve




Generally known online as OpenMedia, now working for Red Hat New Zealand as a Solution Architect for all things Linux, Virtual and of course Cloud. Still playing with MythTV and digital media on the side.



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  Reply # 211626 2-May-2009 11:14 Send private message

I actually had a Freeview tuner but with no recording ability and no Prime or Juice it was more trouble than it was worth.
Before that I tried a HTPC.
Just want a twin tuner recorder that gets all channels, HD where available, with and simple UI and no ongoing costs.
It's really frustrating that some recorders come with so many rules these days about what you can and can't do (skipping ads, watching your recordings on your other TV, broadband connections).
Hence my desire for a Pioneer/Sony twin tuner HDD DVD recorder.
Anyone know whether that's a possibility in NZ/Aus?

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  Reply # 212418 5-May-2009 10:46 Send private message

I'm most interested in what size hard-drive the NZ version will come with. They say it will be similar to the unit in Aus - which has a 160GB drive!

That is pathetic - even a bog-standard PVR has that nowdays. For HD material, it's even more stupid (16 hours, apparently).

I guess it's away of ensuring people "value-add" by purchasing the Tivo-approved 1TB WD drive.

Anyone know if the internal hard-drive is easy to upgrade to something useable, or whether it can be hacked to accept normal external drives? I thought someone had posted on this but couldn't find it in a quick hunt...



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  Reply # 212609 5-May-2009 18:33 Send private message

I'm now thinking of building a Windows 7 RC HTPC instead, apparently they're quite good.
Just need some advice on USB DVB-T tuner sticks!

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  Reply # 212632 5-May-2009 19:47 Send private message

Ditto.. trying to raise cash to build an HTPC myself.. probably worth waiting for Windows 7 to come out?




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  Reply # 212637 5-May-2009 19:59 Send private message

Sorry for going off topic.

Getting back to it can anyone confirm the quality and required ports for playing back recorded content.

FYI Freeview approved devices can only show an HD image through HDMI due to BS copyright rules

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