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Topic # 66828 24-Aug-2010 14:05 Send private message

Couldnt Tivo extract the info (even just on a weekly basis) from here http://www.freeviewnz.tv/whats_on_freeview/
 to give us a Maori TV and Prime listings? Couldnt they just suck it up and put a little more work in?
Can anyone technical  answer this?

I have to say, I was at a house the other night with a MySky and Tivo has a MUCH better GUI.

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  Reply # 372132 24-Aug-2010 14:17 Send private message

My guess is getting the information is the easy part. It's dealing with all the rights and licencing that's hard. I would think if TiVo got the information from elsewhere without approval and the appropriate licences to do so then they may run into a lot of legal trouble.

Thats my 2-cents worth anyway





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  Reply # 372140 24-Aug-2010 14:19 Send private message

But isnt that information free? If we, the general public, can access it, couldn't they?

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  Reply # 372151 24-Aug-2010 14:32 Send private message

meremaiden: But isnt that information free? If we, the general public, can access it, couldn't they?


Yes it should be free but the reality is that it is not.  The TV channel owners like to control it and unfortunately we are stuck with this stupid situation.



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  Reply # 372157 24-Aug-2010 14:36 Send private message

A friend was considering purchasing 300+ TiVo's for her hotel-- she decided against it PURELY for this issue. What a shame eh!? They're a great machine with a beautiful GUI, its silly that they didnt sort this before launch.

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  Reply # 372162 24-Aug-2010 14:38 Send private message

Why bother with TiVo for hotel? If people just want to watch it's cheaper to get Freeview boxes... And get all the EPG, including Maori and Prime).

Also having a TiVo at hotel won't give anyone access to CASPA movie downloads since this requires the TiVo owner's credit card number.

No, go with a Freeview receiver or recorder if this is a must have feature.







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  Reply # 372164 24-Aug-2010 14:39 Send private message

I think she liked the GUI (I pointed out how woman-friendly it is too).... It's sort of a purpose built boutiquey place methinks.



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  Reply # 372166 24-Aug-2010 14:40 Send private message

But yes, she's going with something else now, because according to her it "looks bad" with no EPG on Prime and MaoriTv.

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  Reply # 372186 24-Aug-2010 14:52 Send private message

300+ is not what I'd expect for "boutiquey". The Tivo does have a nice friendly interface though.



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  Reply # 372187 24-Aug-2010 14:53 Send private message

Its a few different sites. Recently accumulated into her family.

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  Reply # 372193 24-Aug-2010 15:03 Send private message

If it's a few sites then that makes more sense.

It's a pity she couldn't go ahead with Tivo, it would probably double the installed customer base :)

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  Reply # 372198 24-Aug-2010 15:08 Send private message

meremaiden: But isnt that information free? If we, the general public, can access it, couldn't they?


That is a very interesting question, but it will cost you 50-100K and a trip to the High court to find out.

In Oz the courts ruled that EPGs were in the public domain, but until there is a similar ruling in NZ TV companies  (recently Sky) will continue to fire out lawyers letters to anyone who republishes their data without permission.  To data no one has called their bluff and been prepared to fork out the $$$ for a court case,



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  Reply # 372210 24-Aug-2010 15:32 Send private message

Thanks Welly Gary-- that's the kind of info I was looking for. It's such a shame. Haven't watched Prime in ages now, because I dont know whats on it!

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  Reply # 372224 24-Aug-2010 15:55 Send private message

What we need is a way to add our own epg data to the standard Tivo download.  That way we could grap Maori and Prime using the epg collecter.



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  Reply # 372227 24-Aug-2010 15:57 Send private message

Yes. I agree. Or at least a way to label the programmes we record off those channels without an EPG.
Should we do some sort of group letter to TiVo?

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  Reply # 372234 24-Aug-2010 16:06 Send private message

Could this be deemed anti competitive and a comcom issue? they are providing it to plenty of others who also dont have the ability to provide audience data (Skys excuse for not providing to tivo)




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