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Topic # 93029 11-Nov-2011 12:18 Send private message

Thought I would share part of an email I got in reply to asking when Maori TV would become a part of the Tvio EPG.

"For commercial reasons Maori Television has not provided TVIO access to its EPG.  We will continue to monitor the development and uptake of TIVO."

This email was received today, it appears to me they have no desire to be listed on TiVo which annoys me considering Maori TV is funded by the tax payer.

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  Reply # 544236 11-Nov-2011 12:36 Send private message

I can't see the uptake of TiVo being a factor in them providing it as it isn't likely to get huge, Telecom is giving them away and there is no more advertising that i have seen.

They would have to overhaul the content and make it more desirable.

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  Reply # 544242 11-Nov-2011 12:55 Send private message

alienwithin: "For commercial reasons Maori Television has not provided TVIO access to its EPG.

Honestly, what could these commercial reasons be, other than a hand-out from a TIVO competitor to withhold this information.

This petty scrap to control your listing information is simply ridiculous.  I'd be concerned if I was advertising on this channel, as surely people having a clue as to what is on is more likely to see them view the channel?  As it stands they're are hoping for the channel hoppers only, or that someone reads the paper etc.

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  Reply # 544245 11-Nov-2011 13:14 Send private message

Isn't Maori TV tax payer funded from memory about $50mil / year?? So what commercial reasons would they have . They should be forced by their political master to provide the EPG..




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  Reply # 544266 11-Nov-2011 14:11 Send private message

It's likely not a matter of desire, but rather commercial imperatives.
Probably MTV has arrangements with Sky TV for rights to screen Australian Rugby League and such, in return for which they have agreed not to supply TiVo with EPG data.
Tivo are considered competition for MySky which is doubtless why Sky, owners of Prime TV, will not supply EPG data for Prime either.
That's only speculation from me, but I think it makes sense.

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  Reply # 544272 11-Nov-2011 14:26 Send private message

Well it makes no sense whatsoever, because guess what, I don't watch their channel (or Prime) because I can't see what is on.

This of course equals less viewers, which one would think is not actually what they want to achieve.



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Master Geek


  Reply # 544277 11-Nov-2011 14:33 Send private message

allan: Well it makes no sense whatsoever, because guess what, I don't watch their channel (or Prime) because I can't see what is on.

This of course equals less viewers, which one would think is not actually what they want to achieve.


funny you mention that, I stated in my email basically the same thing and they suggested I visit their website and set up an email alert for programs i want to watch.  Pathetic, this station is 100% govt funded, yet they have no problem supplying the information for their channels on Sky, and there I believe lays the problem, sky tv.

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  Reply # 544315 11-Nov-2011 16:18 Send private message

It's pathetic that a TV timetable can be copyrighted at all. If they publicly announce, via whatever medium, when programs are going to be broadcast, then anyone should be free to use that information.
The only situation in which someone would be 'copying their works' would be if they ran their own TV station and used the same scheduling.
Things are no better in Oz of course https://mknowles.com.au/wordpress/2011/02/08/freeview-epg-data-not-coming-to-mythtv-anytime-soon/

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  Reply # 544322 11-Nov-2011 16:28 Send private message

That differs from this thread, which says maori should be added soon. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=114&topicid=90019

I don't see what commercial reasons they have for not adding it, but it does reduce tivos value in making it usable. I can get the epg for maori free if I buy a $20 USB TV stick, stick it in my computerm and watch it through windows media player, and they have no way of logging my viewing or anything.
Tivos EPG actually says to contact Maori TV (and Prime TV) to ask them to list it in the Tivo EPG, which no doubt uses up maori tvs resources in dealing with those enquiries. I wonder if maori tv are aware that tivo are telling their viewers to do this.

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Master Geek


  Reply # 548209 22-Nov-2011 08:21 Send private message

Would a massive letter campaign to Maori TVs advertisers help at all?

How many NZers have Tivo? Anyone know?

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  Reply # 548242 22-Nov-2011 09:09 Send private message

meremaiden: Would a massive letter campaign to Maori TVs advertisers help at all?

How many NZers have Tivo? Anyone know?


Now that it's $299 at the major appliance retailers most likely lots more will over the next few months..




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  Reply # 548276 22-Nov-2011 10:08 Send private message

meremaiden: Would a massive letter campaign to Maori TVs advertisers help at all?

How many NZers have Tivo? Anyone know?


To be honest, one of the main uses of TiVo is to not watch TV advertisements. We haven't watched ads in years. I hope the advertisers are not too aware of this though - it could have the opposite effect on us getting Maori or Prime EPG.

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Master Geek


  Reply # 548284 22-Nov-2011 10:16 Send private message

Skolink:
meremaiden: Would a massive letter campaign to Maori TVs advertisers help at all?

How many NZers have Tivo? Anyone know?


To be honest, one of the main uses of TiVo is to not watch TV advertisements. We haven't watched ads in years. I hope the advertisers are not too aware of this though - it could have the opposite effect on us getting Maori or Prime EPG.


But that is the same with MySky or any PVR.


Here's the name of someone at Maori TV I suggest new Tivo buyers write to/ call. [email protected] attn Marino


Marino Harker Smith

Kaiwhakaputa

Publicist
Māori Television

 

Phone     +64 9 539 7000
DDI          +64 9 539 7092
Fax          +64 9 539 7199
Mobile     +64 21 412 579

www.hinve.st
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  Reply # 548301 22-Nov-2011 10:33 Send private message

Well I just emailed them again, as my last email about this was to them on November 9, 2009!!

Oh well, I will continue NOT watching, just like I don't watch PRIME, until I know what on!

Cheers,
Joseph

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Master Geek


  Reply # 548313 22-Nov-2011 10:47 Send private message

Hi team! I did post this thread not too long ago. I'd been on a losing crusade to get the MaoriTV EPG BEFORE the RWC.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=114&topicid=90019

They claim next year.

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  Reply # 548317 22-Nov-2011 10:51 Send private message

JAYJAY: Hi team! I did post this thread not too long ago. I'd been on a losing crusade to get the MaoriTV EPG BEFORE the RWC.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=114&topicid=90019

They claim next year.


Do you think they really will?
I got this today:

For commercial reasons Maori Television has not provided TIVO access to its EPG. We will continue to monitor the development and uptake of TIVO. In the interim, a full weekly schedule of Maori Television programmes is available on the homepage of www.maoritelevision.com and you are able to set an email alert through our website should you wish to be reminded of when a particular show is on. TIVO also has the option of manually programming to record Maori Television programmes.

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