Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.

View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
2391 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 292
Inactive user


  Reply # 559605 19-Dec-2011 14:49 Send private message

I went and sent them a direct message via their website

Also see PrimeTV is owned by sky LOL. Suddenly it all makes sence.

https://skytv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/216


5331 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 207

Subscriber

  Reply # 559827 20-Dec-2011 08:42 Send private message

BraaiGuy: I went and sent them a direct message via their website

Also see PrimeTV is owned by sky LOL. Suddenly it all makes sence.

https://skytv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/216



You didn't know that already??




Regards,

Old3eyes

2391 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 292
Inactive user


  Reply # 559842 20-Dec-2011 09:25 Send private message

old3eyes:
BraaiGuy: I went and sent them a direct message via their website

Also see PrimeTV is owned by sky LOL. Suddenly it all makes sence.

https://skytv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/216



You didn't know that already??


Sadly no..

2391 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 292
Inactive user


  Reply # 559903 20-Dec-2011 11:48 Send private message

Got an official response from SkyTV:

Prime's listings are not available on TiVo's EPG (electronic programming guide) as at this time TiVo does not measure ratings data. This information is important for a free-to-air broadcaster as the ratings are needed to put a value on PRIME's TV commercials.

We expect that this feature could be available in 2012 when we will review this decision at that time.

The same is updated in our Prime Website FAQ Section:

Answer Title: Will Prime's listings be available on TiVo's EPG?
Answer Link: http://skytv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/893

RXV

91 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 2


  Reply # 559906 20-Dec-2011 11:57 Send private message

BraaiGuy: Got an official response from SkyTV:

Prime's listings are not available on TiVo's EPG (electronic programming guide) as at this time TiVo does not measure ratings data. This information is important for a free-to-air broadcaster as the ratings are needed to put a value on PRIME's TV commercials.

We expect that this feature could be available in 2012 when we will review this decision at that time.

The same is updated in our Prime Website FAQ Section:

Answer Title: Will Prime's listings be available on TiVo's EPG?
Answer Link: http://skytv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/893

What a load of ....  How do Prime measure the ratings data of the content that I used to watch on MySky?  I never connected the phone jack so there was no mechanism for this.

I read the above to be "We're blocking access to the EPG for TiVo to give customers a reason not to choose TiVo."

1633 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 110


  Reply # 559916 20-Dec-2011 12:11 Send private message

 
BraaiGuy:
Prime's listings are not available on TiVo's EPG (electronic programming guide) as at this time TiVo does not measure ratings data. This information is important for a free-to-air broadcaster as the ratings are needed to put a value on PRIME's TV commercials.
We expect that this feature could be available in 2012 when we will review this decision at that time.


Compare and contrast with this from earlier
"OK guys, quick update on the EPG/Tivo situation: our tech people are working on it as I write
,

Sounds like a classic case of the marketing/PR department suddenly being told how the world is from Corporate..

Also the answer is BS anyway, I am fairly sure that Freeview do not measure ratings data either, TV companies have to pay someone like Neilsen for that info...

5331 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 207

Subscriber

  Reply # 559932 20-Dec-2011 12:44 Send private message

BraaiGuy: Got an official response from SkyTV:

Prime's listings are not available on TiVo's EPG (electronic programming guide) as at this time TiVo does not measure ratings data. This information is important for a free-to-air broadcaster as the ratings are needed to put a value on PRIME's TV commercials.

We expect that this feature could be available in 2012 when we will review this decision at that time.

The same is updated in our Prime Website FAQ Section:

Answer Title: Will Prime's listings be available on TiVo's EPG?
Answer Link: http://skytv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/893


This is the same crap reply I got got from them last year.  They have just changed 2011 to 2012..




Regards,

Old3eyes

1163 posts

Uber Geek


  Reply # 559939 20-Dec-2011 12:59

That is just the old statement that was on their website, so has no relation to what Prime/Sky said more recently on their facebook page.

If people do want more action, they should phone up sky/prime about the EPG on tivo, rather than online. It is what tivo are saying to do anyway, if you want the epg on it.

61 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 7


  Reply # 559965 20-Dec-2011 15:32 Send private message

Silly question time for people in the know. How do they aquire viewer data in New Zeland? I assume it's via the phone line with MySky but how is this picked up on other devices? I would be VERY concerned if they are lifting viewing data without concent.

773 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 41

Subscriber

  Reply # 559970 20-Dec-2011 15:42 Send private message

My understanding was that, when tivo gets the guide data, it could also upload a record of what was watched. Perhaps this has been switched off in the NZ tivo, but, tivo could have very detailed viewing statistics if they really wanted to.




4739 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 116

Trusted

  Reply # 559973 20-Dec-2011 15:46 Send private message

Yeah as far as I know the TIVO would stand a better chance of sending viewing data than say, oh I don't know, how about the freeview units, you know the ones that don't connect to the internet or phone lines and DO actually have the Prime EPG already....

1450 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 208


  Reply # 559975 20-Dec-2011 15:52 Send private message

Jaxson: Yeah as far as I know the TIVO would stand a better chance of sending viewing data than say, oh I don't know, how about the freeview units, you know the ones that don't connect to the internet or phone lines and DO actually have the Prime EPG already....


...and that's exactly why their excuse is nothing but a load of 'Guano'.




Artificial intelligence is no match, for natural stupidity



6979 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 338


  Reply # 559978 20-Dec-2011 16:00 Send private message

HotDogBreath: Silly question time for people in the know. How do they aquire viewer data in New Zeland? I assume it's via the phone line with MySky but how is this picked up on other devices? I would be VERY concerned if they are lifting viewing data without concent.


Don't a certain percentage of homes in NZ have a device that logs what is watched? I am sure in the T&Cs of these devices it does give permission for the device to send back viewing data. Although it is very big brother, and shouldn't identify the user.
Most freeview devices however don't have anyway to send back data. However my sony TV did once ask me if I wanted to send data back to sony, but that was probably just software related, and not what I was watching.

238 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 2


  Reply # 560170 21-Dec-2011 10:14 Send private message

I believe this is a pointless discussion.

You're all debating over a load of total BS from their marketing/PR depts. (See scuwp's statement)

Prime EPG on TiVo is just not gonna happen.

I agree completely with the assessment of RXV whose interpretation was,
 "We're blocking access to the EPG for TiVo to give customers a reason not to choose TiVo."

Wake up and smell the reality people. There's nothing in it for Sky.

 

5331 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 207

Subscriber

  Reply # 560243 21-Dec-2011 13:05 Send private message

PimpMyMagic: I believe this is a pointless discussion.

You're all debating over a load of total BS from their marketing/PR depts. (See scuwp's statement)

Prime EPG on TiVo is just not gonna happen.

I agree completely with the assessment of RXV whose interpretation was,
 "We're blocking access to the EPG for TiVo to give customers a reason not to choose TiVo."

Wake up and smell the reality people. There's nothing in it for Sky.

 


 

Apart from viewers of Prime which is owned by Sky.  More eyes on the screen more  advertizers will pay..




Regards,

Old3eyes

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic




Twitter »
Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:




News »

Trending now »
Hot discussions in our forums right now:

CGA. Is it fair?
Created by BTR, last reply by nathan on 21-Aug-2014 20:40 (79 replies)
Pages... 4 5 6


Vodafone TV multicast settings on pfSense?
Created by kenkeniff, last reply by TimA on 21-Aug-2014 19:35 (90 replies)
Pages... 4 5 6


Vodafone now charging you to receive a bill via post
Created by stocksp, last reply by richms on 20-Aug-2014 19:28 (79 replies)
Pages... 4 5 6


UFB provider comparison
Created by Rappelle, last reply by dcole13 on 21-Aug-2014 20:43 (23 replies)
Pages... 2


Free: Smart Button for your Android device
Created by freitasm, last reply by steviez on 21-Aug-2014 19:30 (92 replies)
Pages... 5 6 7


Lightbox press event release
Created by freitasm, last reply by NZtimbo on 21-Aug-2014 21:31 (462 replies)
Pages... 29 30 31


Speed halving each night at the same time.
Created by oceanlyner, last reply by joker97 on 21-Aug-2014 21:41 (19 replies)
Pages... 2


It was hardly 'hacking' was it?
Created by CB_24, last reply by ajobbins on 21-Aug-2014 19:49 (96 replies)
Pages... 5 6 7



Geekzone Live »
Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.