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  Reply # 746476 17-Jan-2013 17:06 Send private message

mattwnz: I think it will be pretty rock solid this time, although wondering who in NZ they have got to fix it up. Or whether they are still using the original developers.

They were asked directly in the Stuff article but refuse to say what work was done exactly or by whom. Unfortunately this approach does not inspire confidence. The comments made were about fixing bugs and not about any kind of audit or review of security.

If that is what you are thinking then they will have to live up to it or else.

What will you be thinking this time around if it does not go as you expect?

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  Reply # 746477 17-Jan-2013 17:06 Send private message

mattwnz: I think it will be pretty rock solid this time, although wondering who in NZ they have got to fix it up. Or whether they are still using the original developers.


Software developers sends his work to China... 

Having said that, "Bob" always got top marks for "his" work it seems.






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  Reply # 746480 17-Jan-2013 17:15 Send private message

gzt:
mattwnz: I think it will be pretty rock solid this time, although wondering who in NZ they have got to fix it up. Or whether they are still using the original developers.

They were asked directly in the Stuff article but refuse to say what work was done exactly or by whom. Unfortunately this approach does not inspire confidence. The comments made were about fixing bugs and not about any kind of audit or review of security.

If that is what you are thinking then they will have to live up to it or else.

What will you be thinking this time around if it does not go as you expect?


Probably used the wrong word. I 'hope' it will be pretty rock solid this time. :)

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  Reply # 746483 17-Jan-2013 17:16 Send private message

That's hilarious. Note that 'bob' for certain had the skills and experience to choose good developers and review the quality of their work. That is absolutely essential or he never would have got away with it even without the (unbelievable!) VPN into his workstation.

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  Reply # 746485 17-Jan-2013 17:23 Send private message

gzt: That's hilarious. Note that 'bob' for certain had the skills and experience to choose good developers and review the quality of their work. That is absolutely essential or he never would have got away with it even without the (unbelievable!) VPN into his workstation.


But don't many web developers already do this sort of thing. They subcontract out work to third parties that they don't do themselves to places like India. There is still a lot of work to bug test and assess the work that has been done, as ultimately the developer has to take responsibility for the work they carry out.

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  Reply # 746489 17-Jan-2013 17:38 Send private message

Yes, they do. But none on a personal level like "Bob" in the story.




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  Reply # 746502 17-Jan-2013 18:17 Send private message

Should Bob have been fired, or promoted to management?

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  Reply # 746506 17-Jan-2013 18:29 Send private message

It would be funny to see if they replaced Bob or they continued using the outsourced firm for a 5th of the cost!




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  Reply # 746508 17-Jan-2013 18:32 Send private message

If Bob was an independent contractor rather than an employee, I don't really see the problem with what he did, as he would be liable for the work done, and would have to do the checking anyway. I pressume he was still doing some work communicating with the chinese company. But I guess as an employee it was a no go.

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  Reply # 746523 17-Jan-2013 18:42 Send private message

Most contracts employment or contract have confidentiality and security practice clauses. Bob most certainly busted his all the way down to the ground.

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