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Topic # 104070 14-Jun-2012 09:42 Send private message

Hi guys

I am wanting to get fiber installed at our property in Wellington but without a provider.
Reason I want to do this is because we Rent out the property.

I am planning to install Ethernet throughout the house and get the fiber installed. This allows the tennant to setup their own provider.

Going to get the hybrid install so both copper and fiber terminate and the same place inside the house. If that's what it means.

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  Reply # 640557 14-Jun-2012 09:58 Send private message

Simple answer is you can't, A fiber install require's an RSP (AKA ISP) and there is a 12 month contract between the LFC (Chorus) and the RSP for the circuit base rate. The best you could hope for is to sign up on a 12 mth contract with an ISP, Have the fibre installed and pay the early termination fee




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  Reply # 640560 14-Jun-2012 10:04 Send private message

I see, I might make some calls today and see if any ISP is willing to do a favor lol.

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  Reply # 640586 14-Jun-2012 10:54 Send private message

They won't without a contract. They don't install the fibre and nobody is going to absorb the ~$1000 cost.

Depending on the location you may also find when fibre is installed copper is removed if it is an overhead drop.








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  Reply # 640595 14-Jun-2012 11:10 Send private message

Yea fair enough will see what I can do.

Cheers for the help

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  Reply # 640597 14-Jun-2012 11:17 Send private message

sbiddle: They won't without a contract. They don't install the fibre and nobody is going to absorb the ~$1000 cost.

Depending on the location you may also find when fibre is installed copper is removed if it is an overhead drop.







Do you actually have any evidence to back this up? I've seen you say this a couple of times now and it's counter to what we are seeing and what Chorus and CFH are saying, There's nothing coming from them to suggest copper will be pulled in ANY install unless requested to




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  Reply # 640628 14-Jun-2012 12:07 Send private message

You need to order a fibre service through a retail service provider (RSP) to get a connection. Residents cannot order directly from Chorus.

If you order a service and then cancel it, then there could be a termination fee depending on the contract you enter into with the RSP.

Getting the property's wiring up to spec will benefit both copper and fibre services and your new tenant can then choose the service they want once they move in.

In regards to the copper lead-in discussion - When a RSP asks us to connect a resdient to fibre, it may be necessary to remove the copper lead-in to that resident?s premise in order to physically install the fibre lead-in. This might be because of pole loading requirements or physical constraints in the ducted lead-in.

We won?t actively remove a copper lead-in unless we need to, and we would only do this where the resident voluntarily moves onto fibre. If need be, the lead-in could be replaced at a later time.




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  Reply # 640668 14-Jun-2012 12:58 Send private message

Beccara:
sbiddle: They won't without a contract. They don't install the fibre and nobody is going to absorb the ~$1000 cost.

Depending on the location you may also find when fibre is installed copper is removed if it is an overhead drop.







Do you actually have any evidence to back this up? I've seen you say this a couple of times now and it's counter to what we are seeing and what Chorus and CFH are saying, There's nothing coming from them to suggest copper will be pulled in ANY install unless requested to


As pointed out by Chorus the provision is there for pole loading purposes, or if the copper is used as a draw wire in existing conduit. If it's used as a draw wire it may not be reinstated.

It certainly won't be the norm, but certainly it's something that may occur during an install.



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