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Topic # 111827 15-Nov-2012 23:42 Send private message

Okay here's my little rant.

Yea 78,223(according to http://www.chorusfibre.co.nz/) users have access to fibre, but what percentage of that number is actually going to sign up to it?

I think its ridiculous that there is nothing in place which allows residents to get on a priority list. It's being rolled out in the most stupid fashion.

Yea, they included schools into the plans. But why is there not residents and businesses who actually NEED it getting priority?

I personally for one would actually use fibre, and its so stupid that it's been rolled out 2 streets away and not my street.

I understand that it needs a direct fibre path to the exchange, but there should be a priority list of streets which customers (businesses and residents) live on who actually need it.

I run a couple servers inside my house, using RDC etc. from remote locations. I would love to get a few other servers set up, run a few of my websites locally on a connection which is actually good.

I am a web application developer who needs a fast connect in order to give access to overseas and national users. But on a VDSL2 connection is hardly stable for a web server.

So I think chorus(and other providers) should allow those who NEED fibre, be able to get their streets fibre rollout date moved forward.

I've found out that my street wont be getting a fibre line until 2015, that is ridiculous, there is a school a street away from me, and 2 streets away fibre is already rolled out.

That's the end of my rant ! Anyone else feel the same way as me ?

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  Reply # 718042 16-Nov-2012 06:10 Send private message

Extro: That's the end of my rant ! Anyone else feel the same way as me ?


My simple answer to that is no. If you got UFB there would simply be one other person who misses out that would be using the exact same argument.

UFB is a 10 year project with no focus on residential until years years 6-10. NZ's biggest ever infrastructure project can't happen overnight.

If bandwidth is such a great concern have you inquired into the availability of existing PtP fibre? One would assume you'll be wanting a business plan with a higher CIR anyway, so pricing will be pretty similair to existing PtP pricing.


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  Reply # 718043 16-Nov-2012 06:14 Send private message

Extro: That's the end of my rant ! Anyone else feel the same way as me ?


No I don't agree web services should really be hosted in a data centre and if anyone from Chorus read this they must of lol




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  Reply # 718049 16-Nov-2012 07:21 Send private message

blair003: So if the application is of significant importance, it still really needs to be hosted at a data centre anyway.


QFT. If you are working from home and want some clients to see the results, that's fine - but you don't need UFB for this.

If you have an application that is consumed by the public, which requires time up (hardware maintenance, electricity, network) and performance then the application shouldn't be hosted at home. It should be in a datacentre - either colocated or hosted.

After all those years, with millions of pages served every month, hundreds of gigabytes of traffic some people are still surprised when they ask "so, do you run Geekzone from home" and I say "no, we have servers colocated in one of the Datacom datacentre in Auckland".




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  Reply # 718233 16-Nov-2012 12:46 Send private message

Zeon: You would be crazy to host anything important on a GPON service. Even P2P fibre only comes with an 8 hour SLA and even that doesn't mean it would be fixed within 8 hours if it was something big.

Host at a datacentre with multiple fibre feeders, electricity etc.


Agreed I have 2 VPS's hosted in NZ and Overseas I would not be a happy chappy if they were hosted in some random house for many reasons.

1.) Power (Residential area's low priority power) Auckland CBD gets high priority power. This makes me a happy chappy.
2.) I've never heard of a residential user having backup generator in case of catastrophic sustained power failure.
3.) Residential area's get Low SLA's when it comes to fixing faults.
4.) I fibre redundancy most likely is not going to exists.

Saying that for UFB a test environment is perfect.... But I would not think that VDSL is too slow.

In regards to the rant though I can understand fully the frustration of not getting UFB....
<RANT> I live in a UFB enabled area (Auckland CBD) however unable to get it and it looks like its been dumped into the too hard basket. I'm not expecting to be able to get UFB till around 2015-2017 </RANT>






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