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Topic # 138433 3-Jan-2014 20:24 Send private message

Just wondering if it is possible to connect the chorus box on the wall into a network switch then a cable to the other room and connect the router so it's in the middle of the room for WiFi. 

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  Reply # 960924 3-Jan-2014 20:25 One person supports this post Send private message

Are you talking about the UFB box (aka ONT)?  If so you don't need a switch at all, just run a cable from it to the router.



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  Reply # 960926 3-Jan-2014 20:28 Send private message

Yeah that white Chorus fiber box by the wall usually and then it's connected to the ISP's router.

Not my place, for someone else. The chous guys put the stuff in the garage and now he cannot get a good WiFi reception :D So I was thinking in theory, to put a switch there because the 5 network cables leads to the garage too. Add a switch there to connect it all up. And then using the switch again and put the router in the lounge ....  If it is going thru a switch before the router is that still ok?

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  Reply # 960928 3-Jan-2014 20:32 4 people support this post Send private message

Router needs to go before the switch.

You could either leave everything where it is, and run another WiFi AP at the other end of the house, or if you have enough data outlets, move the router to a better location, patch the ONT through to the WAN side, and patch the LAN side back to the switch in the garage.

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  Reply # 960931 3-Jan-2014 20:49 Send private message

Your posts are quite cryptic.

Get a device that's a switch and WAP, plug it into one of the ports in the house, then plug the device that the connection is meant for into the switch. That will give them WiFi in the house. Instead of a combined switch/wap you could get a cheap switch and a decent WAP. I use a cheap DLink router, configured with DHCP off.




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  Reply # 960933 3-Jan-2014 20:57 Send private message

Do you have a wireless WAP in mind?  That might be the easiest.  Is it plug and play?  No static IP etc required?  They are in a different city.  With this WAP is it on the same network meaning?  If they have a shared printer will the rooms at the back of the house able to share it easily ....

At the moment. 
Chorus ONT in the garage.
So the ISP router is there.
5 network cables from other rooms  run to the garage.  But only one wire is connected as the router only have (1) outlet for RJ45. 

I just thought about adding a 8 port network switch in the garage so the 5 wires can work.  And re-position the router in the lounge.  But that means the Chous ONT goes into a switch before it goes to the router.

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  Reply # 960935 3-Jan-2014 21:11 One person supports this post Send private message

If you add another AP you can set it up easily on the same network and also have wireless devices pick the one with the best signal. Apple airport express is a solid unit and pretty easy for non technical people to set up or Ubiquiti gear for the more technically capable.

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  Reply # 960973 3-Jan-2014 23:51 Send private message

rayonline:
I just thought about adding a 8 port network switch in the garage so the 5 wires can work.  And re-position the router in the lounge.  But that means the Chous ONT goes into a switch before it goes to the router.


This will not work...the ISP provided router must be connected to the ONT, and all other devices that wish to share the internet connection must then be connected to the router and/or a switch connected to the LAN ports of the router. A separate wifi access point is probably the most straight forward way to accomplish what you are after here...something like an Apple Airport Express is probably the easiest for a novice to install and set up.

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  Reply # 960993 4-Jan-2014 08:04 Send private message

RunningMan: If you add another AP you can set it up easily on the same network and also have wireless devices pick the one with the best signal. Apple airport express is a solid unit and pretty easy for non technical people to set up or Ubiquiti gear for the more technically capable.


Further to this, the current Airport Express has two ethernet ports so you could plug it inline with an existing device if you are very short on network outlets. In this situation, set it up in bridge mode, and creating a WiFi network.



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  Reply # 961027 4-Jan-2014 09:57 Send private message

does it grab it by wire then broadcast WiFi or is it wireless input and outputs WiFi? the first would be better right?

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  Reply # 961030 4-Jan-2014 10:03 Send private message

Wired connection back to your router, then distributes the wireless signal.

Extending a wireless network without a wired connection by connecting to your main router wireless should be avoided if at all possible - it can work in some situations but it is far from elegant and has several drawbacks.



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  Reply # 961052 4-Jan-2014 11:15 Send private message

Thanks for that :)
Dumb question - on the unit there is a WAN port. I just connect this to the network switch? They are on fiber optic.

I am asking because online they tend to say connect this to a DSL/Cable Modem.


ONT -> Fritzbox router -> Network switch -> then to 5 diff wall data points. 
One of those wall data points will be the Apple Airport Express. 

This sound right?

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  Reply # 961053 4-Jan-2014 11:17 Send private message

The Fibre ONT connects to the WAN port of the Router. The LAN port of the router will connect to the switch. If you get another WiFi AP, then this will also connect to a port on the switch.

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  Reply # 961811 6-Jan-2014 11:57 Send private message

rayonline: 

ONT -> Fritzbox router -> Network switch -> then to 5 diff wall data points. 
One of those wall data points will be the Apple Airport Express. 

This sound right?


1: ONT to WAN port on the Fritzbox.

2: Fritz only has 4 LAN ports so Fritzbox LAN port to LAN port on the switch (if you want to connect 5 jacks), note: you could always skip the extra switch and just not connect an unused jack/cable for now.

3: In desired location for wifi ap, jack/cable to Apple Airport Express WAN port



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  Reply # 961818 6-Jan-2014 12:07 5 people support this post Send private message

The ONT port connected to the ... WAN port

The LAN port connected to the ... Switch port

The Switch port connected to the ... Access Point

Oh see the data flow!

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  Reply # 961839 6-Jan-2014 12:41 Send private message

Thanks all :)

The Fritzbox only has 1 RJ45 excluding the one from the ONT.  They got the cheaper Snap offer.  If they got the longer contract or paid ~$50 then they get the one that comes with 4x ports. 

They have now bought a separate network switch to connect the Fritzbox to the Switch as they have 5 outlets in the house.  They have yet to get the WAP b/c I am not sure how important that is to them. 

As I am not in ChCh I cannot check for myself.  I'm not sure if in fact wireless from the garage is ok and the issue is their internet TV BOX is just slow by nature so the video is not smooth.  After the switch - the PC, TV and TV BOX are now all connected via a 1Gbps connection but he still says the TV BOX is not smooth.  He's also on a Snap 100/50 connection tested out to be 94/48.  Which is brilliant, told him that, I'm only on a 30/10 or a tested 28/10 and my TV BOX is fine but it is a different one. 

Maybe they didn't need the switch after all ... who knows.  They don't copy files between computers so they don't need that ethernet connection if wireless is decent. 

I've offered to give them my ADSL router which I have reconfigured into a "switch" so they can extend the wireless, won't be in bridge mode thou, doesn't have it, so 2nd SSID name.  But sounds like they don't need that ......

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