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Topic # 138491 6-Jan-2014 22:17 Send private message

Which ISP provides the best hardware for UFB? In most cases they just use their existing ADSL routers, but for UFB ADSL performance is irrelevant, the “extra” features are the differentiating points. E.g. The snap and orcon boxes have DECT for wireless (landline!) phones

Plans and pricing can change so here I am only considering the hardware, however information on some of the hardware is hard to get (except for snap).

Have a look at this shared spreadsheet and please add more information if you have access to it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsEaMHWu3hWedHhhdjdEZkhiNTZIYVJKd0pidzB5REE&usp=sharing

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  Reply # 962249 6-Jan-2014 23:14 6 people support this post Send private message

IMO choosing which ISP to go with based on the hardware they give out isn't the best way to go about it.
If you want to make sure your router performs well, buy your own. Choose which ISP to go with based on which plan suits your needs best.



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  Reply # 962257 6-Jan-2014 23:45 Send private message

Thanks maslink and others for all your help and comments on the google docs file.

I know there has been a lot of discussion about plans, service, and performance of the ISPs here on Geekzone, but it is interesting to compare from the hardware angle.

Getting my own hardware is definitely an option (one possibility added to the linked comparison).

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  Reply # 962265 7-Jan-2014 01:00 Send private message

The problem is if you want a phone line and the provider supplies a router you have to live with it, so with snap that means a crash prone fritzbox and with orcon... well the less said about that hardware the better.

If the ISPs were able to use the PSTN ports on the ONT it wouldnt be such a concern. At this stage I would take the fritz over anything else, but thats because I dont know what else is available.




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  Reply # 962266 7-Jan-2014 01:16 Send private message

richms: The problem is if you want a phone line and the provider supplies a router you have to live with it, so with snap that means a crash prone fritzbox and with orcon... well the less said about that hardware the better.

If the ISPs were able to use the PSTN ports on the ONT it wouldnt be such a concern. At this stage I would take the fritz over anything else, but thats because I dont know what else is available.

Well not really, while compatibility/config can be a hit and miss, in theory its all SIP and so with a bit of playing you might be able to get them working on other hardware or a software stack (freeswitch, asterisk).

They might not be able to help you when you call up but if youve configured your own SIP hardware thats probably irrelevant to you.

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  Reply # 962287 7-Jan-2014 08:13 Send private message

richms: The problem is if you want a phone line and the provider supplies a router you have to live with it, so with snap that means a crash prone fritzbox and with orcon... well the less said about that hardware the better.

If the ISPs were able to use the PSTN ports on the ONT it wouldnt be such a concern. At this stage I would take the fritz over anything else, but thats because I dont know what else is available.


There is nothing stopping any ISP from using the ONT. It does come down to simplification though - having a single device on a customer's site that's remotely provisioned is a lot easier than having two individually configured devices.



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  Reply # 962304 7-Jan-2014 09:11 Send private message

I think all RSPs ISPs would provide a router capable of delivering the service you have purchased from them. The extra fluff you have ontop such as DLNA or other features, if they are that important to you just purchase your own router that supports VLAN 10 tagging PPPoE and IPoE on the WAN interface and you would be fine with any ISP.

I would say you should check the common feedback about the ISP as the speeds you get especially during peak times. Of which my employer has a pretty good reputation in that department.

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