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Topic # 138833 18-Jan-2014 09:14 4 people support this post Send private message

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9623405/Couple-stuck-with-horrible-green-thing

This type of sensationalist reporting, complete with camera angles that increase the perceived size of the 'pillar'/'edifice' annoys the hell out of me.  It's not much higher than the retaining wall that is directly behind it and it is probably going to be hidden by the flax bush once it grows??  As far as NIMBY goes, are we plumbing new depths?

The street is not that far from me, but we still have a few months to wait until they start laying the ducting.  I can't understand their concern, in their position I'd just be happy to be getting UFB access - it's not like it's a great bloody cabinet either.

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  Reply # 969250 18-Jan-2014 09:28 One person supports this post Send private message

It reminds me of a few of the suburbs in Wgtn that complained about Saturn's HFC rollout. In one area in particular (Northland or Karori from memory) local residents made so much noise that the area was recabled and moved underground.

Within weeks they started complaining about the green boxes outside their homes that were "blocking the footpath". You just can't please some people..

In regards to the FAT it's no disputing that these can be quite intrusive, there are a few on The Terrace between Boulcott St and Salamanca Rd that take up a lot of the footpath when you've also got TCL, power and existing Chorus pillars on the footpath. There are more of these around now due to the changes in the way the network has been deployed from year 3 onwards which reduces costs and allows a lot more flexibility in terms of customer splits from the standard 24 way down to 16 as contention is introduced to the network, and makes it easier to deliver P2P services to customers over UFB.




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  Reply # 969254 18-Jan-2014 09:33 4 people support this post Send private message

LOL, I was just reading this article on that pillar of journalism known as Stuff.

'horrible green thing' that must be some technical terminology?

Hopefully this couple will stick to their principles and not opt for UFB.

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  Reply # 969255 18-Jan-2014 09:38 Send private message

From the picture all I can see is the wall of what looks to be the house right up against the street and a ugly white down pipe on it.

Landscaped might be stretching it for that side of the house...

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  Reply # 969256 18-Jan-2014 09:45 5 people support this post Send private message

 'horrible green thing' that must be some technical terminology?


I say paint them bright pink. Problem solved.




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  Reply # 969257 18-Jan-2014 09:51 2 people support this post Send private message

The address is 16 Sunrise Boulevard, Tawa, Wellington if anyone wants to look at an older view (Nov 2009) of it on Google Street view.

I got the address by looking up the wife's name on the Whitepages site. So no invasion of their privacy.

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  Reply # 969261 18-Jan-2014 09:57 Send private message

I'm guessing it's changed a lot since google took this:

The house in question?

But yeah, I'd be interested in a non-distorted photo of it now, because the camera angle\lens in that stuff article is ridiculous.

(EDIT: Doh, I see DarthKermit beat me to it :P )



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  Reply # 969266 18-Jan-2014 10:09 Send private message

sidefx: But yeah, I'd be interested in a non-distorted photo of it now, because the camera angle\lens in that stuff article is ridiculous.

Should I walk around?  I'm not sure how they'd take someone snapping photos of their retaining wall though.

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  Reply # 969269 18-Jan-2014 10:15 One person supports this post Send private message

Well they seem OK with photos and names of themselves and it on stuff; it would be odd if they got upset about you snapping a quick photo from across the road ;-) I'd just be interested in one taken from across the road giving an idea of the actual size and placement of it relative to their house and their neighbours.

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  Reply # 969272 18-Jan-2014 10:18 Send private message

k1wi:
sidefx: But yeah, I'd be interested in a non-distorted photo of it now, because the camera angle\lens in that stuff article is ridiculous.

Should I walk around?  I'm not sure how they'd take someone snapping photos of their retaining wall though.


They didn't mind the stuff picture taker fella doing it, so why can't you?

If you did it from the opposite side of the road, they can't complain.

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  Reply # 969274 18-Jan-2014 10:23

There appears to be another cabinet at the boundary with 14 (Oriel Place). The frontage of 14 appears to be access to buildings some distance from Sunrise. Did Chorus have the option of putting the pillar there?

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  Reply # 969300 18-Jan-2014 11:13 Send private message

Bung: There appears to be another cabinet at the boundary with 14 (Oriel Place). The frontage of 14 appears to be access to buildings some distance from Sunrise. Did Chorus have the option of putting the pillar there?


That 'cabinet' is a ground level power transformer housing - not a good place to dig around to fit multipule ducting

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  Reply # 969303 18-Jan-2014 11:19 2 people support this post Send private message

That camera angle and wide angle lens exaggerates the size, the reporting is not even slightly reasonable. If someone can get a proper photo from across the street that would be interesting to see.




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  Reply # 969305 18-Jan-2014 11:27 4 people support this post Send private message

I note that there isnt a comments section on that stuff page



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  Reply # 969307 18-Jan-2014 11:38 7 people support this post Send private message

As a layman I'd suggest that they can't put it closer to the WE cabinet because it's got 11kV and 440v wires running all around it.  If I was installing it (or even owned the property behind it) I would definitely prefer that they are mounted up against something like the end of a fence or a wall.  I'm not sure who owns the lawn along Oriel Place (as it runs down to a Presbyterian respite care home and could well be a council reserve or a private way), but in any event, putting it in front of the neighbour is just shifting the 'burden' to someone else.

I guess their argument is that the base of it looks like it's up to the paneling of the retaining wall, instead of in line with the outside of the posts.  That might be the 15 cm encroachment they're complaining about.  It actually looks in line with the fence, but I suspect the boundary marker peg has been re-situated in front of the end of the fence (and the retaining wall then placed in line) as a result of the recent resurveying...

I really can't see the issue is about the ugliness of it though - its away from the foot path, below some young flaxes and up against a retaining wall (which is itself beneath a car port).  Like I said, I'd actually prefer it was hard up against the paneling though, because it would stand out less that way I would have thought?  I can't see how it detracts from their 'expensive' landscaping, which aside from the four flaxes is only about providing space for the carport.  It must also be a stretch to call it a 'horrible green thing', the edifice doesn't even come up to my hips.

I'd be more bitchy about the WE transformer right next to it, but the only thing it's done different is existed there for longer.  Just part of the suburban infrastructure.  Actually, I wonder if they've complained about the EMF radiation they're exposed to when they park their car...

Sbiddle, I walk the section of the Terrace you're talking about every day and really don't feel they're that much of an imposition!

Anyway, the photos from across the street (and slightly down the road) are here:





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  Reply # 969309 18-Jan-2014 11:41 3 people support this post Send private message

Great photos!


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