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  Reply # 462903 27-Apr-2011 10:00 Send private message

SaltyNZ: The ability to quickly and easily produce higher resolution lolcats will prove New Zealand's technology leadership to the world.

Also, fibre will be required to cope with the overhead of IPv6's longer addresses.


Were you trolling with that second comment too? I am sure you must have been but I did read somewhere that the internet can often slow down for people with a higher ratio of 0's to 1's since they are more likely to become lodged in the cable. Can you confirm this for me?

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  Reply # 462904 27-Apr-2011 10:05 Send private message

The business case is that there is none, If there was the government wouldn't have to step in and fund it. There is also the fact that Internet is fast becoming an essential service like water/police/firemen/etc etc




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  Reply # 462916 27-Apr-2011 10:23 Send private message

I actually think it's a good move. Communications is part of infrastructure, and may eventually drop the cost of things like phone calls, and make video calling practical. There may not be a direct monetary benefit, but it should help enhances peoples quality of life.

Let's just hope they don't sell it off like they did Telecom.




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  Reply # 462926 27-Apr-2011 10:35 Send private message

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SaltyNZ: The ability to quickly and easily produce higher resolution lolcats will prove New Zealand's technology leadership to the world.

Also, fibre will be required to cope with the overhead of IPv6's longer addresses.


Were you trolling with that second comment too? I am sure you must have been but I did read somewhere that the internet can often slow down for people with a higher ratio of 0's to 1's since they are more likely to become lodged in the cable. Can you confirm this for me?


Nono, studies have shown that 89.23% of the internet is a series of small tubes. The IPv6 addresses have to be carefully inserted lengthways, as opposed to the traditional sideways (this is the "network byte order" you hear people referring to) otherwise they get lodged in the narrow tubes and cause all sorts of slow downs.

That's also why only 1% of the internet is accessible via IPv6. Too many small tubes. They're not exactly dump trucks you know.




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  Reply # 463524 28-Apr-2011 21:52 Send private message

Beccara: The business case is that there is none, If there was the government wouldn't have to step in and fund it. There is also the fact that Internet is fast becoming an essential service like water/police/firemen/etc etc


There have been cases in USA where areas that got FTTP networks later experienced higher economic growth, partly from attracting business that requires or benefits from a fast ubiquitous data network. I don't see it making VoIP much cheaper but will definitely open up new market segments for the VoIP providers who already seem fairly competitive. Both US and European FTTP networks also found that customers purchased a greater range of services despite the basic data service sometimes being cheaper than copper alternatives.

I think the main business case for UFB is that NZ providers of hosting, applications, software and cloud services all have opportunities to develop new services that haven't been such a feature of the NZ market before, and another side effect may be that more of our content gets provided locally. We can't just wait for it though, Google et al will take advantage of the new data capacity if local IT businesses don't.




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  Reply # 463531 28-Apr-2011 22:07 Send private message

Thats a pretty flimsy business case which is why the government has had to step in, If FTTH was profitable for the network operator we'd have Telecom/Telstra/Citylink/Vector/Whoknows kicking down doors to deploy FTTH, There isn't a case here, At least not the traditional business case




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  Reply # 463780 29-Apr-2011 16:56 Send private message

Beccara: Thats a pretty flimsy business case which is why the government has had to step in, If FTTH was profitable for the network operator we'd have Telecom/Telstra/Citylink/Vector/Whoknows kicking down doors to deploy FTTH, There isn't a case here, At least not the traditional business case

Well I would say there isn't any business case at all for a Telco to deploy its own nationwide FTTP network in NZ because it would get penalised for trying to build yet another network that was only economic with a retail near-monopoly on all the extra services and without any option for wholesaling dark fibre.

Most of the economic benefit is for business customers and for home users that can use broadband for work or to create new opportunities.




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  Reply # 463785 29-Apr-2011 17:09 Send private message

I can say at least from a business perspective UFB opens up the door to consolidation of IT services with SaaS (or if not the big jump at least colo or virtual platforms e.g. VERSA). For example we are just about to launch a SaaS based application where the size of an average page will be anywhere between 1 and 10MB and users will be opening new pages on average every 20 seconds. Sure you can get fibre now but its ridiculously expensive in comparison to the next best option.





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  Reply # 463904 30-Apr-2011 10:00 Send private message

webwat: retail near-monopoly on all the extra services and without any option for wholesaling dark fibre.


Do you wanna explain exactly what you mean here because it's kinda confusing when i'm sitting at the office looking at a SFP attached to wholesale DF 




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