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  Reply # 546522 17-Nov-2011 14:38 Send private message

garvani: Sorry in advance these could be basic questions, im trying to get my head around this.
Whos sets the prices for access? I see that is on Northpower fibre, so does northpower set the access charges or is that handled by a governing body such as crown fibre? I hope its the latter, as your going to have vastly different prices/plans for the entire country. Chorus are laying the fibre here and i have a bad feeling about what they are going to charge if they are indeed the ones that will set the prices, one could only dream of that sort of plan under Chorus administration!


There is a contractual agreement between Crownfibre and the LFC (local fibre company) that won the tender for each region.

See "Price Books" for the wholesale prices at the bottom of the page
http://www.crownfibre.govt.nz/publications-and-tenders/retail-service-providers.aspx 

Wholesale prices will be similar, end user ISP prices will be different of course based on the ISP's other costs and whether they position themselves are a high performance or cheap isp.
  

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  Reply # 546538 17-Nov-2011 14:55 Send private message

Thank you! it all just became a lot clearer!

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  Reply # 549464 24-Nov-2011 16:06 Send private message

Looking for some advice for a school about to setup to fibre.
We at present have Cat 5 cabling .  Being advised by an Education dept advisory group that we virtually need to replace everything.  We have around 60 computers connected to our network.  The quote to bring everything up to standard (is wait for it) around $145.000.00. The school has around 210 students.  I thought Cat 5 was capable of handling fibre.  My thoughts were we would need to bring our swtches up to IGig. Thoughts and suggestions would be of great value.  Are we being ripped of and are other schools facing the same costs
Thanks



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  Reply # 549469 24-Nov-2011 16:12 Send private message

^I go to a high school of about 1700 students and im pretty sure our network only goes at 1Gbps, even then it is horrendously slow.













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  Reply # 549550 24-Nov-2011 18:34 Send private message

simplestuff: Looking for some advice for a school about to setup to fibre.
We at present have Cat 5 cabling .  Being advised by an Education dept advisory group that we virtually need to replace everything.  We have around 60 computers connected to our network.  The quote to bring everything up to standard (is wait for it) around $145.000.00. The school has around 210 students.  I thought Cat 5 was capable of handling fibre.  My thoughts were we would need to bring our swtches up to IGig. Thoughts and suggestions would be of great value.  Are we being ripped of and are other schools facing the same costs
Thanks


First impression is that it doesn't sound like great advice and $145k for 60 computers sounds extreme.

Questions:
1: Where are you located?
2: Do you have an itemised quote of the work items to be done and equipment to be purchased?
3: Is your existing cable CAT5E or only CAT5?
4: Is the government paying? I wouldn't be surprised to be seeing overblown quotes for government funded work.
5: Do you have a network diagram of your existing network?

#3 is important because unfortunately Cat 5 (non E) is old does not support gigabit speeds.

Your internal network speed (cabling/switches) and your external speed (fibre internet connection) are really two separate different things.

While ideally you want gigabit internal network for faster internal to internal speeds if you have a 100Mbit internal network and 100Mbit external internet connection it's not going to be the end of the world.

Upgrading the internal network doesn't have to be done all at once either.



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  Reply # 549562 24-Nov-2011 18:56 Send private message

simplestuff: Looking for some advice for a school about to setup to fibre.
We at present have Cat 5 cabling .  Being advised by an Education dept advisory group that we virtually need to replace everything.  We have around 60 computers connected to our network.  The quote to bring everything up to standard (is wait for it) around $145.000.00. The school has around 210 students.  I thought Cat 5 was capable of handling fibre.  My thoughts were we would need to bring our swtches up to IGig. Thoughts and suggestions would be of great value.  Are we being ripped of and are other schools facing the same costs
Thanks


Cat5 is fine for 100mbps so no problems with your internal network. No need to upgrade or touch that at this stage and it should last you for years yet. If the fibre you get is 1gbps then you may need to have cat5e or cat6 to your computer room from where the ONT will be installed (that is if it isn't installed in your server room!) 





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  Reply # 549571 24-Nov-2011 19:12 Send private message

Thanks for the words of assistance.  Not sure whether it is cat 5 or 5e will check.  Located near Hamilton
Keep the advice coming 

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  Reply # 549629 24-Nov-2011 21:54 Send private message

As mentioned, you can easily get UFB without concern of the internal networks connection, even if you have 100mbit links around the school with a gigabit internet connection (which it probably isn't, more likely 100mbit), then a single user isn't going to need more than 100mbit, so the existing infrastructure would likely be fine.

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