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Topic # 102874 24-May-2012 20:19 Send private message

When activating cell info display a 6 numbers are displayed on the standby screen (where normally the name of the cell would be displayed) e.g. 883349 884042. Is there a way of changing this to indicate the cell name or, a database of what these numbers correspond too?

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  Reply # 630245 25-May-2012 11:11 Send private message

nzpilot1181: When activating cell info display a 6 numbers are displayed on the standby screen (where normally the name of the cell would be displayed) e.g. 883349 884042. Is there a way of changing this to indicate the cell name or, a database of what these numbers correspond too?

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Hi Are you saying that with an XT SIM you would get the name of the cell?  I'm told that XT doesn't broadcast the cell name over the air interface, so if you say it does then I will do some testing.  This should be common though between XT and Skinny as it is delivered by the network.  Is there a specific reason that you want this displayed?  cheers  Paul.



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  Reply # 630284 25-May-2012 12:19 Send private message

Hi Paul

Cheers for the reply. It is similar to what you get over the Voda 2G network however rather than dispalying cell name there are a series of 6 numbers (which i would imagine correspond to the cell site)
Attached is a picture. The numbers frequently change.



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  Reply # 630285 25-May-2012 12:23 Send private message


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  Reply # 630287 25-May-2012 12:24 Send private message

nzpilot1181: Hi Paul

Cheers for the reply. It is similar to what you get over the Voda 2G network however rather than dispalying cell name there are a series of 6 numbers (which i would imagine correspond to the cell site)
Attached is a picture. The numbers frequently change.


Hi yes the numbers do correspond to the cell site.  We don't transmit the cell names though - just the numbers.  cheers  Paul




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  Reply # 630292 25-May-2012 12:32 Send private message

Thanks Paul. Dont spose there is a way of knowing what numbers these correspond to? E.g. 885059 is Ardmore ?

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  Reply # 630299 25-May-2012 12:48 Send private message

Why just transmit the CI?




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  Reply # 630399 25-May-2012 15:38 Send private message

johnr: Why just transmit the CI?


It's really common on many networks globally - I've come across a large number networks around the world in my travels that transmit this, even on GSM. Some in the old days also used channels other than 50 which required manually subscribing.




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  Reply # 630426 25-May-2012 16:21 Send private message

nzpilot1181: Thanks Paul. Dont spose there is a way of knowing what numbers these correspond to? E.g. 885059 is Ardmore ?


Sorry no - is there a particular reason you need this info?

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  Reply # 630708 26-May-2012 13:16 Send private message

Because it's interesting and helps people to whinge and moan about coverage etc ;) And of course there would be a way for you to find out what these numbers correspond to Skinny - if you don't prsonally know someone at Telecom will.....

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  Reply # 630714 26-May-2012 13:36 Send private message

It's not the sort of things networks give out publically. Asking for it it a bit like calling up the Police and asking where all the Police cars are located.

Having said that there is nothing secretive about the codes as they can be viewed by any phone. It's simply the LAC + Cell ID + sector. If a site is dual or tri carrier you'll see the 1/2/3 4/5/6 and 7/8/9 numbering convention used.

I mapped all the Cell ID's around Wellington for 99% of both XT and Vodafone sites a few years ago when I was working on some coverage stuff, a process that only took me a weekend. It'll largely be out of date now because networks do change things, and there is no point in updating it because quite frankly it's completely meaningless data unless you have a specific need for it and more importantly actually understand what it means.

Using it to "whinge and moan about coverage" is fraught with issues unless you actually understand how a WCDMA network functions, and how cell adjacency is configured.


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  Reply # 630719 26-May-2012 13:44 Send private message

I remember about 10 years ago when I got my first GMS fone on Voda I always saw the cell site name. Seemed have vanished over the last few years.. It was very handy to know just where you where.




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  Reply # 630781 26-May-2012 17:34 Send private message

I thought this function was only used on 2nd generation GSM networks. But all networks transmit the country and operator code number allocated. I stand to be corrected if wrong.

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  Reply # 630824 26-May-2012 19:24

I know this is geekzone, but seriously the op is taking it to a new level. Skinny is a service not an information hub. Oh btw, I'm interested in your great grandmothers name...




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  Reply # 630866 26-May-2012 21:32 Send private message

@tritex - I'm sure you're right

@sbiddle - I called the police to check and they told me that wasting police time is an offence!

@old3eyes - google maps

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