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Topic # 101761 8-May-2012 09:20 Send private message

Maxnet is set to release Fyx, a service that will automatically bypass geo restrictions for content such as Netflix, Hulu and others.

PaulSpain has posted more about Fyx on his blog here.




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  Reply # 621431 8-May-2012 09:23 Send private message

Just noticed that the Fyx website has gone live.

34c per GB sounds great, but it looks like you need a working POTS line as well i.e. this is not a Naked DSL service.  Monthly sub. of $34 also looks not too bad.

And of course you get the much vaunted "Global Mode".  It will be interesting to see how that plays out in practice.





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  Reply # 621432 8-May-2012 09:23 Send private message

Boom, goes xnet. However MAXNet do use the DIA filter, just so people are aware.
(And no talk of IPv6?)

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  Reply # 621433 8-May-2012 09:24 Send private message

grant_k: Just noticed that the Fyx website has gone live.

34c per GB sounds great, but it looks like you need a working POTS line as well i.e. this is not a Naked DSL service.  Monthly sub. of $34 also looks not too bad.

And of course you get the much vaunted "Global Mode".  It will be interesting to see how that plays out in practice.


Naked DSL is +$25. So $59 in total + data.


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  Reply # 621434 8-May-2012 09:24 Send private message

grant_k: Just noticed that the Fyx website has gone live.

34c per GB sounds great, but it looks like you need a working POTS line as well i.e. this is not a Naked DSL service.  Monthly sub. of $34 also looks not too bad.

And of course you get the much vaunted "Global Mode".  It will be interesting to see how that plays out in practice.


Naked = +$25 urban or rural.

FYX

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  Reply # 621435 8-May-2012 09:28 Send private message

Hi kyhwana2 - yes, we do use the DIA filter, and confirm that +$25 for naked is for both the Urban and Rural varieties.

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  Reply # 621437 8-May-2012 09:29 Send private message

not bad. Not sure how the global mode thing will shake out, but the standard pricing is interesting.

If you use 100GB of data then the plan is arond $70. Add on a landline so around $115, which is approximately comparable to plans like Telecom etc

If you use 500GB, then you pay around $200, not too bad either.

If you only use 10GB, then you pay around $40, not too bad again.

But the biggest benefit being if your usage fluctuates quite a bit then you will definitely save money vs other ISPs i.e. use less = pay less, and overage on other ISPs is typically $1-2/GB, this is 34c flat rate



So do we have confirmation that this is actually legal?  Siurely macnet wouldn't be so dumb as to launch something like this without thoroughly going through the legal ramifications, would they?

FYX

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  Reply # 621440 8-May-2012 09:37 Send private message

We need to say very specifically that we are providing a service that gives much greater access to the internet. The user needs to be very aware of terms and conditions on any website they go to, whether it is in New Zealand or elsewhere.

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  Reply # 621441 8-May-2012 09:37 Send private message

Also, how is this legal? It's probably dubious at best.

At best you're violating Hulu/etc's ToS. At worst you're actually commiting (and Maxnet is contributing, also illegal!) copyright infringement.

If Maxnet piss off hollywood too much with this, they'll get raided by the cops/CIA and extradited to the US.

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  Reply # 621444 8-May-2012 09:44 Send private message

kyhwana2: Also, how is this legal? It's probably dubious at best.

At best you're violating Hulu/etc's ToS. At worst you're actually commiting (and Maxnet is contributing, also illegal!) copyright infringement.

If Maxnet piss off hollywood too much with this, they'll get raided by the cops/CIA and extradited to the US.


Maxnet are not accessing any content they are just providing the customer with an address that looks like its in another country. There is nothing illegal about that as far as I am aware.




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  Reply # 621445 8-May-2012 09:44 Send private message

kyhwana2: Also, how is this legal? It's probably dubious at best.


No different than someone using a friend to buy a DVD or book in the US and having it sent here.

kyhwana2: At best you're violating Hulu/etc's ToS. 


And that's not illegal.

kyhwana2: If Maxnet piss off hollywood too much with this, they'll get raided by the cops/CIA and extradited to the US.


I will assume you are joking here ;)






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  Reply # 621447 8-May-2012 09:46 Send private message

never mind.

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  Reply # 621452 8-May-2012 09:51 Send private message

NonprayingMantis: It might not be technically illegal, but if this gets critical mass*, how long before Sky/Quickflix/TVNZ etc lobby their rights holders to force Netflix et el to introduce requirements to have a US based Credit card and proof of address before signing up, thus utterly destroying Fyx's model?


*if it remains a small niche type ISP like Maxnet, probably never going to happen, but if it gets adopted by Telecom/Telstraclear etc, then it will get big pretty quickly.


They already do require a US credit card.  Unfortunately for them, a certain debit card issued by a certain large New Zealand company in association with BNZ apparently fulfills this requirement.

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  Reply # 621455 8-May-2012 09:53 Send private message

I'm not sure if I'm reading the same website, but they don't seem to offer content itself so I don't see anything being illegal. I can get to those sites currently through other services like a VPN etc, this just takes out a lot of the hassle.

It's always the end users responsibility as to what they do on the internet, just as it's a drivers responsibility to drive on the roads properly.

At $0.34 /GB I'm going to finally be able to cut my parents over from Xnet

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  Reply # 621456 8-May-2012 09:54 Send private message

Kyanar:
  It might not be technically illegal, but if this gets critical mass*, how long before Sky/Quickflix/TVNZ etc lobby their rights holders to force Netflix et el to introduce requirements to have a US based Credit card and proof of address before signing up, thus utterly destroying Fyx's model?


*if it remains a small niche type ISP like Maxnet, probably never going to happen, but if it gets adopted by Telecom/Telstraclear etc, then it will get big pretty quickly.


They already do require a US credit card.  Unfortunately for them, a certain debit card issued by a certain large New Zealand company in association with BNZ apparently fulfills this requirement.


it fulfills the requirment of having a US based address?

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  Reply # 621459 8-May-2012 09:59 Send private message

Talk about painting a giant target on your back, Just because end users with some work can get around geofencing doesn't mean an ISP can offer it as a product and will FYX support the global mode when Hulu/Netflix/whoever figure out how they are doing it and block it?




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