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Topic # 100843 19-Apr-2012 14:57 Send private message

Hi
I have an old Elite Version II security alram (Arrowhead? or Crow?), and it was without power for few days as the section of the house was isolated for few days. It was on battery backup, but the battery ran out after few days. After I opened the panel and checked the battery, the unit went in Tamper state and would not accept the code as well. As of now I have taken out the fuse and the battery, so no power at all. Searched the net for installation manual, but could not find it. Arrowhead's website requires login for any downloads, and not even sure if the manual is on the site.

Would anyone have the manual or can offer to help?

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  Reply # 611976 19-Apr-2012 15:31 Send private message

sidkumar: Hi
I have an old Elite Version II security alram (Arrowhead? or Crow?), and it was without power for few days as the section of the house was isolated for few days. It was on battery backup, but the battery ran out after few days. After I opened the panel and checked the battery, the unit went in Tamper state and would not accept the code as well. As of now I have taken out the fuse and the battery, so no power at all. Searched the net for installation manual, but could not find it. Arrowhead's website requires login for any downloads, and not even sure if the manual is on the site.

Would anyone have the manual or can offer to help?


I think that this is the same type of alarm I installed at my parents place quite a few years ago. I should be able to get a scan of the installers manual, however, it will be a few days before I will get a chance to get this.




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  Reply # 612001 19-Apr-2012 16:03 Send private message

Make sure you charge up the battery soon or else it will die. And don't put it on concrete.




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  Reply # 612034 19-Apr-2012 17:14 Send private message

I've got an install manual for the crow powerwave 8.

PM me your email and i'll send it to you.

Greg

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  Reply # 613511 23-Apr-2012 09:22 Send private message

I have manuals for elite s from arrowhead. Pm me if you would like them.

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  Reply # 614646 24-Apr-2012 23:04 Send private message

I got all the manuals you'll need as well, installer and user
PM if you need them sent

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  Reply # 615346 26-Apr-2012 11:56 Send private message

Why can't you put the battery on concrete??

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  Reply # 615744 26-Apr-2012 22:26 Send private message

brad.wright: Why can't you put the battery on concrete??


In laymen's terms the concrete will suck heat out of the battery causing it to die.  In technical terms the concrete is such a large thermal mass you create a temperature differential between the base and ambient that the plates deform and short out.  There are other effects also, but this is the main one.  It is fine if you put it on a bit of timber to get it off the concrete.

If looked after a lead acid battery can last about 10 years.  Otherwise it is about 2 years.




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  Reply # 615826 27-Apr-2012 07:51 Send private message

Niel:
brad.wright: Why can't you put the battery on concrete??


In laymen's terms the concrete will suck heat out of the battery causing it to die.  In technical terms the concrete is such a large thermal mass you create a temperature differential between the base and ambient that the plates deform and short out.  There are other effects also, but this is the main one.  It is fine if you put it on a bit of timber to get it off the concrete.

If looked after a lead acid battery can last about 10 years.  Otherwise it is about 2 years.


Thanks alot for this information, didn't know about this at all. Interesting!




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  Reply # 615835 27-Apr-2012 08:24 Send private message

Everything you ever wanted to know about batteries and more is at http://batteryuniversity.com/




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  Reply # 616265 27-Apr-2012 20:31

The don't store batteries on concrete is a bit of a myth.
The only thing likely to happen is that the concrete will start to decompose if there is any acid on the bottom of the battery.

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  Reply # 616558 28-Apr-2012 14:40 Send private message

Not sure about arrowhead, but with most alarm panels if it is in alarm, then you will need to de-activate it before you can enter programming. If your code didn't work, then it's not that code or you entered it incorrectly.

If you can't turn it off then you may end up having to default the board and program it from scratch. 

Before you power it back up, remove one side of the siren output. Makes for a much more pleasant programming experience!

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