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Topic # 103335 5-Jun-2012 01:01 Send private message

It looks great. But so did the renevator saw... I need a quieter alternative to an angle grinder.

Anyone knw the cost? Its not in the ad so probably heaps.




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  Reply # 635897 5-Jun-2012 10:34 Send private message

Renovator $239 (fully kitted with all blades) or $189 with minimum set blades.  Saw it Mega Mitre 10 Albany



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  Reply # 635975 5-Jun-2012 12:19 Send private message

I have the oizito version of the renovator and it cuts the same as the real one once you put the better blades on it, the problem is that its still not what I need for cutting steel box section to length. The neighbors get all pissy about an angle grinder at any time of the day so I need something quieter for when they are whining and thinking of calling noise control.




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  Reply # 636026 5-Jun-2012 13:21

I don't think they'd be any quieter than an angle grinder based on youtube reviews from amateurs. I think the promoters drop the audio levels when they do the official promo clips. A large part of the noise from my grinder and circular saws comes from the gearboxes even while free running. If the contra rotating gearbox was made like a Swiss watch maybe but in the real world these aren't.

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Reply # 636040 5-Jun-2012 13:35 Send private message

richms: ... thinking of calling noise control.

As long as your aren't doing it at all hours of the night - I say let them stop thinking and start calling ... Men have got to use their sheds and power tools - it's our god given right.  Remember Sound Control always given at least one warning and it takes 30-60 mins for them to arrive - you can cut a lot of things in that time...
 

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  Reply # 636041 5-Jun-2012 13:37 Send private message

richms: I have the oizito version
 Much cheaper I think I saw for $99 at Bunnings - how much did you pay for the replacement blades ?

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  Reply # 636042 5-Jun-2012 13:44 Send private message

What makes it better than a normal skill saw? I don't buy products that are hard sold with tv advertorials, and they then don't mention the price. That is a trick to get you talking with them where they will offer you a 'fantastic deal'.I stick to the top brands when it comes to power tools such as makita that do have a sticker price. They are very durable and last for years and years.

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  Reply # 636043 5-Jun-2012 13:45 Send private message

richms: I have the oizito version of the renovator and it cuts the same as the real one once you put the better blades on it, the problem is that its still not what I need for cutting steel box section to length. The neighbors get all pissy about an angle grinder at any time of the day so I need something quieter for when they are whining and thinking of calling noise control.


I;d say this advice applies to almost every type of power tool.

I have a dirt cheap hammer drill from bunnings ($25 IIRC).  the drill bits it came with were rubbish but use some decent drill bits and it is just as good as the drills that costshundreds of dollars.
the main downside being that the motor might blow out with heavy use. But if it does, who cares. I get it replaced under warranty or, worst case, I just buy another one for $25.

I've built 3 decks on one drill, then it broke down and I just bought another one.


same goes for my Mitre saw, Skillsaw, reciprocatng saw, jigsaw.  I buy the cheapest one available and put better quality accessories with it.

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  Reply # 636047 5-Jun-2012 13:50 Send private message

NonprayingMantis:
richms: I have the oizito version of the renovator and it cuts the same as the real one once you put the better blades on it, the problem is that its still not what I need for cutting steel box section to length. The neighbors get all pissy about an angle grinder at any time of the day so I need something quieter for when they are whining and thinking of calling noise control.


I;d say this advice applies to almost every type of power tool.

I have a dirt cheap hammer drill from bunnings ($25 IIRC).? the drill bits it came with were rubbish but use some decent drill bits and it is just as good as the drills that costshundreds of dollars.
the main downside being that the motor might blow out with heavy use. But if it does, who cares. I get it replaced under warranty or, worst case, I just buy another one for $25.

I've built 3 decks on one drill, then it broke down and I just bought another one.


same goes for my Mitre saw, Skillsaw, reciprocatng saw, jigsaw.? I?buy the cheapest one available and put better quality accessories with it.


Yeah, I purchased a noname / house brand hedge trimmer from a BBR, that came with a 3 year warranty. Only used it for 5 minutes on a red robbin hedge and the motor burnt out. My previous B&D hedge trimmers lasted 10 years with that hedge, so there was no problem with the thickness of the hedge. Returned it, the same thing happened again after just 5 minutes. Returned it, and the same thing happened again. So I got my money back. They looked fantastic, but they don't have the durability, so it is a case of getting what you pay for.

I think some of these products are sold, because they don't expect them to be used too often, so the components in them may just be plastic, or cheaper metals, rather that the top quality components. That is why you often see exclusions in the warranty thats excludes commercial use.



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  Reply # 636064 5-Jun-2012 14:02 Send private message

We did that with heatguns when doing a friends place up. Ended up with 6 or so of them with a couple breaking each weekend. Was great to have about 10 people over all stripping paint at once tho.




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  Reply # 636083 5-Jun-2012 14:13 Send private message

Any high speed cutting tool is going to make a lot of noise if it is used to cut hollow section steel.

Use a hacksaw, it will placate the neighbours and give you a work out at the same time.




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  Reply # 636125 5-Jun-2012 14:54 Send private message

richms: We did that with heatguns when doing a friends place up. Ended up with 6 or so of them with a couple breaking each weekend. Was great to have about 10 people over all stripping paint at once tho.


I wonder why they kept failing as there isn't much too them. I have a Wenger one that is over 15 years old and has stripped many many window and door frames and hasn't skipped a beat. Although before that I had a B&D one that broke after a year.

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  Reply # 636147 5-Jun-2012 15:52 Send private message

mattwnz:
richms: We did that with heatguns when doing a friends place up. Ended up with 6 or so of them with a couple breaking each weekend. Was great to have about 10 people over all stripping paint at once tho.


I wonder why they kept failing as there isn't much too them. I have a Wenger one that is over 15 years old and has stripped many many window and door frames and hasn't skipped a beat. Although before that I had a B&D one that broke after a year.


Perhaps designed for 220V but we have 240V so for a resistive load it is 19% more heat generated.  Or a batch fault.  I've bought 2 towel rail timers and both failed within 2 months - it had a counterfeit capacitor in it.  We have the exact same genuine capacitor at work as a stock item so I fixed it myself.

I wonder if you buy a new B&D if it will last nearly as long as your first one...




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  Reply # 636153 5-Jun-2012 15:57 Send private message

I think it was the overheat protection in them, as they only ever failed after running for about an hour.




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  Reply # 636250 5-Jun-2012 19:10 Send private message

Just get yourself a nice big 9" grinder or just a steel drop saw. Bigger blade, faster cut. Faster cut = less noise. But at the end of the day I would say f*** 'em. As long as you aren't doing it at silly hours then they can just quit complaining. People are just far too precious these days. Next time they complain about the grinding, start the lawn mower. When they complain again, start another thing. Sooner or later they won't be worried by the noise of the grinder lol.

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  Reply # 636546 6-Jun-2012 10:59

mattwnz: What makes it better than a normal skill saw? I don't buy products that are hard sold with tv advertorials, and they then don't mention the price. That is a trick to get you talking with them where they will offer you a 'fantastic deal'.I stick to the top brands when it comes to power tools such as makita that do have a sticker price. They are very durable and last for years and years.


The trick with this item is that it has two blades - one going clockwise and the other going anticlockwise.
Looks magical on TV - but I hate those ads...
1) They NEVER give the price
2) There is often a 2 for 1 deal - just halve the f'ing price!!!! If its that good I only need one!

To be fair - I dont think they actually had a 2 for 1 on that particular item...


There is actually a website http://www.dualsaw.com/




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