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Topic # 105242 30-Jun-2012 00:19 Send private message

Sorry in advance for my messy format, its just that i have alot of things i'm confused about right now and i would really want to get them sorted.

Long story short, after moving to a new address a month ago and having trouble getting our internet connection to work on any phone jack, my ISP organized a chorus technician to inspect the problem for us and located it to be a filter/splitter(master?)  installed in the box(phone line?) on the wall inside our garage. He told us that the filter would only allow one jack plug to connect to the internet, that jack is strangely located inside the box. He told us he could either connect the splitter to a specific jack point inside the house or bypass it so that all jacks can connect to the internet. As we have only just moved in and was unsure with jack point we would like to use, we opt for the second option.

The chorus technician kindly removed (and took away?) our filter without charge. What he did not tell us was why we should keep the filter..... 

So from what i understand after some self reading online, installing a master splitter would reduce the noise on the wiring inside the house hence give a better connection especially for houses with several phone jacks(in our case 6~8)? Also with a master splitter installed, addition adsl filters are not required for the phones and modems?


We have adsl2+ filters for every device plugged in a phone jack, how much of a difference would a master filter make?

Master filters can be bought for a rather low price but installing them seems to require a fair amount of knowledge and some connectors? The cost of getting a technician to install one costs somewhat between $150-200?

I feel really awkward as if a master splitter is needed, we will essentially be paying for something to be installed that we just got removed...

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  Reply # 648551 30-Jun-2012 07:20 Send private message

Well I would be complaining to your ISP that the chorus tech stole your equipment!
That is if they did in fact take it, have you looked in the box in the garage?
The master sPlitter will be a little black device about the size of a cigarette packet.
It will have a pair of blue / white wires, a pair of orange / white wires and possibly a pair of green / white wires coming out of it.

A master splitter will give you the best connection on your line so it is highly recommended.




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  Reply # 648568 30-Jun-2012 09:23 Send private message

Hi, as CyaBro says and to add that only a master filter can eliminate the echos from the various stub line sections that your house wiring will create even if you put filters on each device, therefore is the only correctly engineered solution.

Cyril

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  Reply # 648574 30-Jun-2012 09:51 Send private message

I have a spare master splitter and the gel connectors sitting in my tool box.

If not having the parts is what is worrying you more private message me your address and I will post them down to you.


If its wanting a technician to do the work for you, like the other posters have said it is worth having the master splitter for the improvement to line speed/quality/noise



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  Reply # 648586 30-Jun-2012 10:41 Send private message

I'll double check the box, was checking it last night so a little dark. But the splitter doesn't really cost that much now so i don't see the point in taking it... goes for as cheap as $20 brand new from pbtech, only problem is the clips and installation knowledge which i lack.
http://pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MODDNX001&name=DYNAMIX-XDSL-Master-Wired-in-filter-ADSLADSL2+VDSL
How much does it cost purely for the installation and how hard is it to DIY? Also i read somewhere, once installed, you can easily move the clips around switching it to your desired jack in the house?

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  Reply # 648590 30-Jun-2012 10:53 Send private message

$23 from PB Tech. You need to tick the box on the right to get the GST inclusive price. Anyway, cheap.

If you see a Chorus van in your neighbourhood, ask the guy if he is interested in a simple cash job. It really does not take that long to do.

To get it done officially is a standard install which I believe is in the order of $150 to $200. No one cares if it is done officially or not, as long as the splitter is Telepermit approved and you have standard phone or solid core network cable.

Phone wiring is just 2 wires with low voltage on it (or a few pairs of which usually only 1 pair is used). The gel filled cable joiners can be purchased from Jaycar for relatively cheap, or maybe Dick Smith (expensive if still available). You insert 2 wires into the gel cavities and whack it with a hammer to drive a blade through the insulation to make the connection. Just keep the correct polarity.




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  Reply # 648597 30-Jun-2012 11:20 Send private message

Just double checked, see nothing resembling the black splitter box, unless its possible to be in a different color and material... Might as well buy the filter can clips and see if i can get it working, also can't seem to find the gel joiners on the jaycar website, might be entering the wrong search terms?

Also is the master splitter and gel connectors all i need? I see a diy installation kid that seems to insist that you need alot of stuff to do the installation.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/cables-adaptors/networking/auction-488167483.htm

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  Reply # 648624 30-Jun-2012 12:59 Send private message

http://www.jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=HP1214&form=CAT2&SUBCATID=996#1




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  Reply # 648666 30-Jun-2012 15:06 Send private message

Where are you located? There is a man on here who can sort you out if you are in the Auckland area?



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  Reply # 648675 30-Jun-2012 15:21 Send private message

chevrolux: Where are you located? There is a man on here who can sort you out if you are in the Auckland area?


I'm located around danemora/flatbush near chapel road.

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  Reply # 648677 30-Jun-2012 15:29 Send private message

plo009:
chevrolux: Where are you located? There is a man on here who can sort you out if you are in the Auckland area?


I'm located around danemora/flatbush near chapel road.


Lol... so Auckland then? Look for coffeebaron on here. He will sort your wiring for you.



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  Reply # 648679 30-Jun-2012 15:35 One person supports this post Send private message

Lol... so Auckland then? Look for coffeebaron on here. He will sort your wiring for you.


He charges $150 doesn't he? Sigh, I feel like an idiot. Got a chorus technician to "fix" our internet by removing the splitter and now paying to get a new one installed......

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  Reply # 648698 30-Jun-2012 16:55 Send private message

$150 is about right. You will pay a hell of a lot more to get your telco to get chorus to do it.

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  Reply # 648727 30-Jun-2012 18:11 Send private message

...and Coffee Baron will do a much better job.




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  Reply # 648736 30-Jun-2012 18:49 Send private message

Thanks for the recommendation guys, its just that it really stings me the fact i'm shelling out $150 to get something that i accidentally got removed without knowing its use :/.

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  Reply # 648751 30-Jun-2012 19:40 One person supports this post Send private message

Who would take one of these out, even if you weren't aware of it's use/purpose yourself?
If it was faulty, just removing it wasn't the solution, it should have been replaced with a working one.

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