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Topic # 112438 8-Dec-2012 21:39 Send private message

Does any one  have one of those dual saws that are advertised on TV that Mitre10 sell? Supercheap has a model which is over half the price of the Mitre10 one but is Rockwell brand. Comments on how good they are if you do indeed have one




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  Reply # 729132 8-Dec-2012 23:46 Send private message

i've been wondering ... if they're so good why do tradesmen not be using them for the last 50 years?

not sure but perhaps they are that good but ... not sure!




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  Reply # 729137 9-Dec-2012 00:38 Send private message

Well I can say that their other product, the renovator is nothing like what they promise. Have tried 3, a renovator I borrowed, and an ozieto from bunnings and a Bosch that I bought.

None of them will do squat to nails and all that happens is the tool ends up shaking around and not the blade cut across the nail.

Based on that disappointment of infomercial to real life, I wouldn't bother with a dual saw. I was thinking about it since they will be quiter than an angle grinder on steel tube, but that's not an issue anymore with a change of neighbours.




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  Reply # 729138 9-Dec-2012 00:46 Send private message

richms: Well I can say that their other product, the renovator is nothing like what they promise. Have tried 3, a renovator I borrowed, and an ozieto from bunnings and a Bosch that I bought.

None of them will do squat to nails and all that happens is the tool ends up shaking around and not the blade cut across the nail.

Based on that disappointment of infomercial to real life, I wouldn't bother with a dual saw. I was thinking about it since they will be quiter than an angle grinder on steel tube, but that's not an issue anymore with a change of neighbours.


Premium brands like Bosches pro ones have their own trademen quality version of the renovator tool, and I don't know how they perform. But don't know of they do anything like the DualSaw for tradesmen. When choosing tools, look what the pros use, as you get what you pay for.  Much of the cheaper stuff are for VERY light use around the home. Usually manufacturers will have two grades of tool, one for home use, and one for tradesmen.

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  Reply # 729142 9-Dec-2012 00:55 Send private message

This was the good bosch one. The guy at the powertool shop said that they get lots of people trying to do nails because of the ad and that they will just not do anything hard, I am guessing they used stunt nails in the ad when they go thru them quickly. The bosch certainly has more weight to it so that it is less bouncy around on the nails, but its certainly noway near the speed and ease of a sawzall type saw, so I only used the bosch to get into the nails holding cieling battens up where the sawzall was going to be a mission to get into place and not mark the beams.




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  Reply # 729144 9-Dec-2012 01:07 Send private message

richms: This was the good bosch one. The guy at the powertool shop said that they get lots of people trying to do nails because of the ad and that they will just not do anything hard, I am guessing they used stunt nails in the ad when they go thru them quickly. The bosch certainly has more weight to it so that it is less bouncy around on the nails, but its certainly noway near the speed and ease of a sawzall type saw, so I only used the bosch to get into the nails holding cieling battens up where the sawzall was going to be a mission to get into place and not mark the beams.


That's interesting, they do have two models, and I was looking at getting one. They they call it a 'multitool'. I suspect in adverts they are using a really soft nail, or zinc screws which are really soft.

Was it the cheaper green one like http://www.mitre10mega.co.nz/shop/powertools/saws/bosch_multitool_180w_267232/
Or the blue pro one like http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductCategory.aspx?catid=1605 


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  Reply # 729145 9-Dec-2012 01:56 Send private message

the first one.




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  Reply # 729246 9-Dec-2012 12:26 Send private message

mattwnz:
richms: Well I can say that their other product, the renovator is nothing like what they promise. Have tried 3, a renovator I borrowed, and an ozieto from bunnings and a Bosch that I bought.

None of them will do squat to nails and all that happens is the tool ends up shaking around and not the blade cut across the nail.

Based on that disappointment of infomercial to real life, I wouldn't bother with a dual saw. I was thinking about it since they will be quiter than an angle grinder on steel tube, but that's not an issue anymore with a change of neighbours.


Premium brands like Bosches pro ones have their own trademen quality version of the renovator tool, and I don't know how they perform. But don't know of they do anything like the DualSaw for tradesmen. When choosing tools, look what the pros use, as you get what you pay for.  Much of the cheaper stuff are for VERY light use around the home. Usually manufacturers will have two grades of tool, one for home use, and one for tradesmen.


The Bosch tool certainly feels a bit heavier duty but the blades are just as useless as the renovator's. No point buying the expensive bosch bades as they go blunt just as quick. I think in the ad they had almost cut through the nail and then just finished it off for the camera. A proper reciprocating saw is they way to go for removing nails.
However, the multi tool really comes in to it's own for all the tricky work. There really is nothing better for cutting in to skirting and architrave's. And they are really good grouting cleaners. I won't go with out one now. All those jobs you did with a hammer and chisel now gets down by the multitool.

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  Reply # 729674 10-Dec-2012 12:13 Send private message

I bought an Ozito multitool and used it to do a couple of jobs around the house...overall I got what I paid for.

I paid about $50.00 and after my few jobs, I will need new blades, but other than that, I cut through nails and bolts, made holes in wood and plaster and did a wee bit of detail sanding.

Overall I was pretty happy, to be honest.





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  Reply # 730606 11-Dec-2012 16:26 Send private message

I have a Bosch multi tool and have used it to cut nails many times and even used it to trim a piece of roofing iron on the roof. Yes theres a bit more noise but was a lot safer than using a grinder and risk setting fire to the house because of sparks.

Re OT I have not used a dual saw but to me they look like a waste of time and money.

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  Reply # 730630 11-Dec-2012 16:51

richms:  I wouldn't bother with a dual saw. I was thinking about it since they will be quiter than an angle grinder on steel tube, but that's not an issue anymore with a change of neighbours.


Have you heard one in real life? I think the noise of the gearbox must be significant unless it's sewing machine precision.

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  Reply # 730640 11-Dec-2012 16:56 Send private message

richms: the first one.


I think they are the lower cost ones, designed to compete at the lower end of the marekt. I was going for the blue one. Pay a bit more but better quality and performance.

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  Reply # 732152 13-Dec-2012 16:46 Send private message

Hi all, was goin to buy a "cheapie" like on TV but looked on Trade Me under duallsaws. There is one there from Jecc Solutions with heaps more power and overall a better saw. I think offhand it is around the same price depending on what you get with it. They have some Christmas deals on at the moment. In the end i might go for a tradesman multi saw. has anyone had any experience or know if there is much difference in the Bosch (blue) compared to a Makita. Have read a few writeups and there does'nt seem to be tooo much difference and the price is around the same for both.

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  Reply # 735050 19-Dec-2012 16:44 Send private message

The difference will likely be in the form of the accessories and the warranty cover.




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  Reply # 735387 20-Dec-2012 11:45 Send private message

In response to the OP, my father has a duel saw that he uses for many DIY jobs on his farm. Seems to work fine, the only issue is the cut is much thinker then anything else due to having 2 blades. He uses it to cut steel tubing for farm gates and other similar jobs. So far the only issue has been his lack of protective gear, the fragments it produces (equivalent of the sparks from an angle grinder) are quite large (compared to angle grinder sparks) and a few got embedded in his leg, not deep but enough to make him use some protection.

I hope that helps.

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