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  Reply # 749365 23-Jan-2013 10:14 Send private message

Little curious why Spotify is on the list, but not iTunes or any other legal music services. Definitely can't be used for illegitimate content.

And WebDAV? WebDAV is uploading technology for maintaining web sites - I can't see how that could be really abused.

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  Reply # 749366 23-Jan-2013 10:17 Send private message

Hmm. True. If Pandora and Rdio aren't on the list then Spotify shouldn't be either.





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  Reply # 749374 23-Jan-2013 10:27 Send private message

My workmate uses Ubuntu.One as a dropbox type service.  I would think both that and Asus.Webstorage are legitimate services?

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  Reply # 749377 23-Jan-2013 10:31 Send private message

I think the "legitimate" status comes down to things like "who is behind the service?" "is the company behind the service actively monitoring it to make sure it's not used for content distribution instead of storage?"

Basically people can use some of these services to upload content and then distribute a link. Microsoft and Google are very active in blocking this kind of use, but other smaller or unknown services aren't or don't have their policies established yet.

I know about ASUS storage being provided by ASUS but what kind of controls do they have? Is there a statement anywhere?







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  Reply # 749387 23-Jan-2013 10:44 Send private message

wait, spotify is on the list?

seriously?



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  Reply # 749424 23-Jan-2013 11:39 Send private message

freitasm: I think the "legitimate" status comes down to things like "who is behind the service?" "is the company behind the service actively monitoring it to make sure it's not used for content distribution instead of storage?"

Basically people can use some of these services to upload content and then distribute a link. Microsoft and Google are very active in blocking this kind of use, but other smaller or unknown services aren't or don't have their policies established yet.

I know about ASUS storage being provided by ASUS but what kind of controls do they have? Is there a statement anywhere?





Correct. Flip is playing safe here - hence a comprehensive list that we're trimming based on further investigation.

Currently looking at


  • Spotify (should be fine)
  • WebDAV
  • Ubuntu
  • Asus.Webstorage
  • Yousendit




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  Reply # 749435 23-Jan-2013 11:48 Send private message

Spotify approved - should have caught that one earlier...

Updated the original list.




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  Reply # 749618 23-Jan-2013 15:12 Send private message

Another vote for removing Hamachi.

Ive got lots (10+) of clients that use it, and not for anything 'abusive/illigal'.



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  Reply # 749667 23-Jan-2013 16:04 Send private message

Dairyxox: Another vote for removing Hamachi.

Ive got lots (10+) of clients that use it, and not for anything 'abusive/illigal'.


Done




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  Reply # 749736 23-Jan-2013 17:39 Send private message

We've also been testing gaming over the last couple of days

Call of duty black ops 1 and 2
Counter strike source
Battlefield 3
Modern warfare 3

All are good.

Going to have a look at xbox live tonight




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Reply # 749751 23-Jan-2013 18:03 Send private message

ScottHoogerbrug: We've also been testing gaming over the last couple of days

Call of duty black ops 1 and 2
Counter strike source
Battlefield 3
Modern warfare 3

All are good.

Going to have a look at xbox live tonight

Sounds like a rough time!



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  Reply # 750183 24-Jan-2013 13:31 Send private message

nickb800:
ScottHoogerbrug: We've also been testing gaming over the last couple of days

Call of duty black ops 1 and 2
Counter strike source
Battlefield 3
Modern warfare 3

All are good.

Going to have a look at xbox live tonight

Sounds like a rough time!


Could be worse! 

Xbox live worked well. Also tested game updates and were problem free.




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  Reply # 752474 29-Jan-2013 10:55 Send private message

  • WebDAV
  • Ubuntu
  • Asus.Webstorage
  • Yousendit

Are confirmed to be ok, I've updated the list.

From now on, this list will be maintained in the Flip support centre.

http://support.flip.co.nz/entries/23025086-no-cap-data-pack-list-of-limited-technologies

We have also launched! Will start a new thread on it.




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  Reply # 752491 29-Jan-2013 11:14 Send private message

ScottHoogerbrug:
dan: I was just wondering, dont see anything in that list related to Usenet, is there a technical reason for that? or just not a concern ?


Not really a concern. 


It should be, its used by leechers just as much as torrents and Rapidshare etc.

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  Reply # 752493 29-Jan-2013 11:15 Send private message

Probably because most of the usenet users have to pay for the service, and seeing most pirates aren't in the business of paying...

;)





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