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  Reply # 990321 19-Feb-2014 11:45 Send private message

KiwiNZ: using offshore providers like Netflix and dubious downloads is part of the problem and makes the Quickflix failure prophecies somewhat self fulfilling. 


No. I blame Sky. 

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  Reply # 990323 19-Feb-2014 11:55 Send private message

My biggest problem with Quickflix is the quality.

New Samsung 55" SmartTV using the Quickflix app and it looks terrible, worse than a DVD.
Not so bad when you use an iPad but if the whole family wants to watch we aren't going to do it on that!




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  Reply # 990339 19-Feb-2014 12:04 Send private message

CYaBro: My biggest problem with Quickflix is the quality.

New Samsung 55" SmartTV using the Quickflix app and it looks terrible, worse than a DVD.
Not so bad when you use an iPad but if the whole family wants to watch we aren't going to do it on that!


We use it on TiVo and the only quality issues have been on old shows where the original recordings would have been crap. I recall from another thread that different apps have had differing picture quality.

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  Reply # 990371 19-Feb-2014 12:40 Send private message

BlueShift:
CYaBro: My biggest problem with Quickflix is the quality.

New Samsung 55" SmartTV using the Quickflix app and it looks terrible, worse than a DVD.
Not so bad when you use an iPad but if the whole family wants to watch we aren't going to do it on that!


We use it on TiVo and the only quality issues have been on old shows where the original recordings would have been crap. I recall from another thread that different apps have had differing picture quality.


I see on my TiVo now some of the new movies are are listed as being in HD  which is a plus..




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  Reply # 990375 19-Feb-2014 12:53 One person supports this post Send private message

Klipspringer:
KiwiNZ: using offshore providers like Netflix and dubious downloads is part of the problem and makes the Quickflix failure prophecies somewhat self fulfilling. 


No. I blame Sky. 


Agreed, actually Sky is largely an offshore provider

OMG I agree with Klipspringer I must be in an alternate universe :P






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Reply # 990379 19-Feb-2014 12:58 Send private message

davidcole: I find the device limitations more a barrier. I don't feel like using a computer and don't particularly want to buy a new TV to access quickflix.

Netflix has the advantage on being on most modern media player devices. Quickflix needs to do the same thing. Apart from tivo (which unless its second hand, I don't believe you can buy any more) the only way to get it on a device in NZ is on a tv and some bluray players.
I have had it on a xbox 360 and playstation 3 for a year or so. also for 6 months or so have it on a Windows 8 tablet. Also been available on Samsung Android tablets for quite a while, so many more ways than tv or blu ray player




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  Reply # 990453 19-Feb-2014 13:24 Send private message

KiwiNZ:
Klipspringer:
KiwiNZ: using offshore providers like Netflix and dubious downloads is part of the problem and makes the Quickflix failure prophecies somewhat self fulfilling.


No. I blame Sky.


Agreed, actually Sky is largely an offshore provider



Yep - given NZ is yet to have any locally available online service that provides the full range of programming available, it's difficult to put all the blame on the users. Only when we have (local) access to Netflix plus programming from HBO etc available online, and ideally having that content delivered within an acceptable period post its original release can the market be considered mature enough for there to no reason to look to other means, fair or foul. I'm about to go down the Netflix and/or Hulu+ route (just waiting for an Apple TV to turn up), but even then expect to be disappointed by 1. missing programming (eg HBO) and 2. delayed programming. Still no silver bullet yet (well, one that doesn't involve handing over a good amount of dosh to Sky, and I'm just not willing to pay huge amounts for content of which I'm only interested in a tiny proportion).

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  Reply # 990461 19-Feb-2014 13:34 Send private message

My big qualm with Quickflix is cost vs content. Most of the content on there is quite old, and most of the newer stuff is pay per view. I ended up finding little that I wanted to watch, and so cancelled the subscription.

I recently cancelled my Quickflix subscription, and one of the reason I gave was that I've signed up to Netflix. The lady on the phone was quite accepting of this, and I suspect that it's a reason they hear quite frequently.

I really do have sympathy for Quickflix because they're in an awkward place at the moment. They need more customers to help drive economies of scale, and to help strengthen their position when negotiating licensing agreements with publishers. However, the numbers of customers will probably stay fairly small until either the price comes down or the amount of content increases. I just hope they're able to survive in the mean time.

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  Reply # 990465 19-Feb-2014 13:42 Send private message

KiwiNZ:
Klipspringer:
KiwiNZ: using offshore providers like Netflix and dubious downloads is part of the problem and makes the Quickflix failure prophecies somewhat self fulfilling. 


No. I blame Sky. 


Agreed, actually Sky is largely an offshore provider

OMG I agree with Klipspringer I must be in an alternate universe :P




We also agreed on what a good place Kapiti is :-p



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  Reply # 990476 19-Feb-2014 14:06 Send private message

nzgeek,

Can't see how they can survive, as their core market in NZ won't use them for whatever reason.

The only way they would work is if they actually go further than netflix and obtain first screening rights. But sadly this will cost and the customer won't be willing to pay. The biggest problem they would have is that a lot of their potential customer base expects to pay a bulk type price for all different types of content regardless of it's value.

The example I use is going into restaurant and ordering a meal that consists of steak, potatoes, coleslaw and pumpkin and then thinking you should be able to just get the steak for 1/4 of the meal price.

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  Reply # 990480 19-Feb-2014 14:13 Send private message

Klipspringer:
KiwiNZ:
Klipspringer:
KiwiNZ: using offshore providers like Netflix and dubious downloads is part of the problem and makes the Quickflix failure prophecies somewhat self fulfilling. 


No. I blame Sky. 


Agreed, actually Sky is largely an offshore provider

OMG I agree with Klipspringer I must be in an alternate universe :P




We also agreed on what a good place Kapiti is :-p


Yeah nice place lousy drivers though 

back on topic: I use netflix and hulu and when I can't get what I want from them I then resort to torrents from trusted sites so no dubious files at all  




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  Reply # 990483 19-Feb-2014 14:17 Send private message

People want an 'all you can eat service' for a set monthly price. I think that is especially the case for tv shows. I wonder if it wouldn't be better for them to increase the monthly price instead.

Really the whole problem is content rights, as Quickflix has the infrastructure to provide delivery, they just struggle with content, and that appears to be a barrier for all. Until content is unbundled, they are going to struggle IMO.



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  Reply # 990488 19-Feb-2014 14:23 One person supports this post Send private message

GeekieGeek,

Say you can get HBO on Netflix/Hulu or on a Quickflix but you want to see GoT the minute it is released, is it still ok to torrent it considering a lot of other content on Netflix/Hulu etc has some sort of delay as well?

Is it ok to torrent anything that appears on Netflix/Hulu at a later date even though there is a legitimate way of viewing it straight away?

Or is it just price that determines you view?




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  Reply # 990496 19-Feb-2014 14:32 Send private message

Mattwnz,

Problem with a 'all you can eat' price is that the really expensive items are normally not available as the cost to purchase to supply to the price to sell gives you no margin. You don't see many 'all you can eat places' serving the best quality steak or crayfish.

How do you propose unbundling? Considering that 95% of the content is sourced form overseas how can unbundling be applied to here?

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