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  Reply # 1055659 29-May-2014 09:16 One person supports this post Send private message

macuser:   Yes I'm very well aware of the fact you can change it in the browser...but these settings don't apply to devices...


Isn't the idea that you change the quality settings at the account level using your browser and it plays back to all your devices at those settings?

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  Reply # 1055661 29-May-2014 09:20 Send private message

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macuser:   Yes I'm very well aware of the fact you can change it in the browser...but these settings don't apply to devices...


Isn't the idea that you change the quality settings at the account level using your browser and it plays back to all your devices at those settings?


I've tried a couple times, it doesn't seem that way.  I'll try again though




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  Reply # 1055664 29-May-2014 09:24 Send private message

macuser:
BigMal:
macuser:   Yes I'm very well aware of the fact you can change it in the browser...but these settings don't apply to devices...


Isn't the idea that you change the quality settings at the account level using your browser and it plays back to all your devices at those settings?


I've tried a couple times, it doesn't seem that way.  I'll try again though


definitely try again. i've changed it there and it affected all my devices.

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  Reply # 1055666 29-May-2014 09:26 Send private message

ir1141:
macuser:
ir1141: what VPN do you guys use to access Netflix? trying to get around this Vodafone transparent proxy issue thing.


Pretty sure the Vodafone transparent proxy is ALWAYS going to cause issues regardless of the proxy, as Netflix is now incompatible with ISP caching.  

As they've said, VF needs to basically disable caching for the Netflix IP ranges.


even through a VPN? great! :(
ah yes, i see your edit. thanks for the response. not sure what i'll do, maybe just wait this out and see what happens since everyone is putting up a fuss.


VPN uses encryption and therefore will not be going though VF cache, and should work - only way you can cache encrypted traffic is to setup a man in the middle attack - and VF would have to be VERY clear that they are doing that and even then, could run into trouble over it. The netflex / VF issue is for DNS redirector, and that does go though the cache.

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  Reply # 1055676 29-May-2014 09:50 Send private message

ir1141: what VPN do you guys use to access Netflix? trying to get around this Vodafone transparent proxy issue thing.


I am a subscriber to Unotelly's DNS service and was given a free trial to their VPN due to the recent nonsense (guess between UnoTelly and VF who I am way more impressed with in terms of customer service). It works pretty well and we've gotten equivalent performance from Netflix whilst connected to it. I consider essentially buffer free streaming (you do have to do it during the US' off-peak times though - which isn't hard due to the time difference) at the highest possible bitrate (50??) to be pretty good :)



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  Reply # 1055787 29-May-2014 11:40 Send private message

Witopia VPN use for last 6 months or so, on Vodafone ADLS2 connection. (about 10Mb download speed)

No problems accessing Netflix at all. No issues during the recent DNS Caching Vodafone controversy.

I used to worry I should be using unotelly etc rather than VPN but not any more....

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  Reply # 1056411 30-May-2014 10:46 Send private message

old3eyes:
plambrechtsen: Personally I have to say I love my Chromecast + phone/tablet, it's a very simple interface and the Chromecast is super cheap to pickup and doesn't lock you into the apple world (it locks you into Google instead, but at least the devices are cheaper!). Had a sick daughter at home today and she spent the whole day watching NF. It's only a relatively recent addition to my household but the kids love it and still trying to convince my better half we can dump Sky.


You're running NF via a Chromecast??


Works a treat. I have a second (well 3rd actually) SSID at home connected to a VPN so my Phone and Chromecast are on the same network and life is pretty, just had to teach the kids how to swap wifi networks on the tablet, but these days they are mostly on the VPN SSID so it just works. Should really have a split domain so I only route specific IP/DNS addresses via the VPN and the rest out the normal ADSL connection but have been busy and only got this connection fully working a few months ago. Cisco 877 + Proxim AP4000 in my roof with high gain internal antennas running VLAN Trunking to 877 for multiple SSIDs + Iomega iConnect I picked up second hand reflashed to run OpenWRT for OpenVPN using another trunk connection to 877 for multiple VLANs and DHCP server for VPN network.




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  Reply # 1056414 30-May-2014 10:48 Send private message

Too much work to get Chromecast going. Roku and Amazon allows you to use third party DNS, providing your ISP don't screwup with Transparent Proxy of Hell (TM).






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  Reply # 1056419 30-May-2014 10:53 Send private message

freitasm: Too much work to get Chromecast going. Roku and Amazon allows you to use third party DNS, providing your ISP don't screwup with Transparent Proxy of Hell (TM).


While I agree with you in principal having a outbound OpenVPN is a bit of a PITA to setup on a dedicated VLAN/SSID. It also means you can allow inbound OpenVPN should you so desire if you set things up right, and there are plenty of OpenVPN clients for all devices. Which I find rather handy for other stuff like home automation, or setup XBMC to record things and such like by WOLing your PVR. Which is my next project when time allows.




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  Reply # 1056420 30-May-2014 10:55 Send private message

IF people want more than sure, it's great. If people want just outbound connections, the DNS options is way easier to setup.






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  Reply # 1056426 30-May-2014 11:07 Send private message

freitasm: Too much work to get Chromecast going. Roku and Amazon allows you to use third party DNS, providing your ISP don't screwup with Transparent Proxy of Hell (TM).


The Roku needs to get its DNS via DHCP and they've hard coded 8.8.8.8 in the Netflix app which you have to block.  When my Routerboard arrives I'm going to stick the Roku on its own network and scope. I just need to do some careful thinking about where the NAS sits.  We use the DLNA client on the Roku a lot.

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  Reply # 1056427 30-May-2014 11:08 Send private message

macuser:
ir1141: what VPN do you guys use to access Netflix? trying to get around this Vodafone transparent proxy issue thing.


Pretty sure the Vodafone transparent proxy is ALWAYS going to cause issues regardless of the VPN, as Netflix is now incompatible with ISP caching.  

As they've said, VF needs to basically disable caching for the Netflix IP ranges.


If you're talking about Telstraclear cable going to Vodafone, unless things have changed, the transparent proxy only broke port 80. That meant either trying to watch Netflix/Hulu etc on a browser or trying to access your account.

When I last used it (before I moved ISP's) it had no effect on any other devices like Roku's, Android devices, PS3, ATV etc. that don't use port 80

A current cable subscriber (I am sure Mauricio is one) can confirm this.






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  Reply # 1056430 30-May-2014 11:13 Send private message

SaRaCeNz: I'd say ATV has the most "Mom+Pop" appeal so far as streaming devices go. Apple and iTunes have an extremely trusted brand where as Roku, WDTV etc do not have significant brand following among the average vanilla consumer and are seen more as a hobbyist device here.  


Maybe ATV has more Mom+Pop appeal in a retail environment (Roku doesn't exist in NZ retail as we all know) but I know what customers prefer once given the opportunity to play with one.

At present we provide all our fibre clients a 1x month trial of a Roku Streaming Stick and I'm sure a catchy saying would be appropriate here such as "once you go Roku, you never go..." ...sure someone else can do a better job than me.





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  Reply # 1056435 30-May-2014 11:20 Send private message

lchiu7:
macuser:
ir1141: what VPN do you guys use to access Netflix? trying to get around this Vodafone transparent proxy issue thing.


Pretty sure the Vodafone transparent proxy is ALWAYS going to cause issues regardless of the VPN, as Netflix is now incompatible with ISP caching.  

As they've said, VF needs to basically disable caching for the Netflix IP ranges.


If you're talking about Telstraclear cable going to Vodafone, unless things have changed, the transparent proxy only broke port 80. That meant either trying to watch Netflix/Hulu etc on a browser or trying to access your account.

When I last used it (before I moved ISP's) it had no effect on any other devices like Roku's, Android devices, PS3, ATV etc. that don't use port 80

A current cable subscriber (I am sure Mauricio is one) can confirm this.


A proxy wouldn't affect VPN access as this is a network in itself, regardless of the provider's network.

On the other hand I have been using UnoTelly (DNS only) to access Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Instant Video on Vodafone cable. It's been working for a while, and with last weeks problems (which arised from a Netflix change that introduced some different headers) Vodafone, Telecom and Slingshot have changed their proxies to work with this.

There's no reason not to use it now.






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  Reply # 1056480 30-May-2014 12:48 Send private message

Of course. I was thinking of the Unblock service which can be broken by a transparent proxy.




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