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  Reply # 855562 14-Jul-2013 23:41 Send private message

hamish225:
webwat: Hope they look at the option of a separate battery backup port, because the essence of the battery suggestion was that a DC battery charger gives the router a redundant power supply instead of relying 100% on mains power. Of course USB may not have enough amps to power it so might be a simple 12V charger output or perhaps the WAN link could accept remote power in addition to the normal DC input, eg a PoE injector at the ONT allowing the ONT to share its UPS with the gateway. Any power input should still be able to plug into a UPS though, so not the normal plug pack, which was another important suggestion.

Power supply really is the Achilles heel of fibre broadband and VoIP even though average users don't usually realise it and wouldn't think about how to connect it. Perhaps the gateway should be marketed with either a charger output that feeds an external off-the-shelf 12V battery if required, or an external 12V power supply that fits a battery. I'm thinking the average user won't figure out that both the ONT and gateway can run from the same UPS, especially since ONTs don't seem to always make it into a comms cabinet, and building owners often don't request this because they are not the occupier and often not tech savvy at all.


yeah but every single person in nz has at least one cellphone so thats their 'in case of emergency' right there.

My dads a technophobe, so a land line is a must. Granted it'll be a long time before the copper network gets switched off, but still.

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  Reply # 855571 15-Jul-2013 01:04 Send private message

PaulBags:
hamish225:
webwat: Hope they look at the option of a separate battery backup port, because the essence of the battery suggestion was that a DC battery charger gives the router a redundant power supply instead of relying 100% on mains power. Of course USB may not have enough amps to power it so might be a simple 12V charger output or perhaps the WAN link could accept remote power in addition to the normal DC input, eg a PoE injector at the ONT allowing the ONT to share its UPS with the gateway. Any power input should still be able to plug into a UPS though, so not the normal plug pack, which was another important suggestion.

Power supply really is the Achilles heel of fibre broadband and VoIP even though average users don't usually realise it and wouldn't think about how to connect it. Perhaps the gateway should be marketed with either a charger output that feeds an external off-the-shelf 12V battery if required, or an external 12V power supply that fits a battery. I'm thinking the average user won't figure out that both the ONT and gateway can run from the same UPS, especially since ONTs don't seem to always make it into a comms cabinet, and building owners often don't request this because they are not the occupier and often not tech savvy at all.


yeah but every single person in nz has at least one cellphone so thats their 'in case of emergency' right there.

My dads a technophobe, so a land line is a must. Granted it'll be a long time before the copper network gets switched off, but still.


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  Reply # 862641 20-Jul-2013 16:17 Send private message

webwat: Hope they look at the option of a separate battery backup port, because the essence of the battery suggestion was that a DC battery charger gives the router a redundant power supply instead of relying 100% on mains power.


But then power users who care about maintaining 99% uptime on power, would hopefully put a UPS on all their com stuff anyway. 

I already have a UPS as our power is quite 'dirty', we get a lot of dips and spikes (several times a month) and im in central auckland!

I use a 1500VA UPS on the Gateway, Router, Switch and NAS (installed the splitter and AC power to our hallway cupboard) - which is good for about 45 mins (though the NAS is configured to shutdown which drastically increases that time). 


The feature set on this modem project is fairly impressive, just as with others, hope it doesn't carry the Fritz!Box price tag! But I would happily spend $250-300 for this.
More than 4-5 GigE ports isn't an issue anyway I don't think, given how cheap switches are these days.

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  Reply # 862695 20-Jul-2013 18:54 One person supports this post Send private message

I and others have said it before but I think it bares repeating: a UPS that outputs 12vdc would be very useful, not much point transforming to 240vac and back again.

Just as useful would be a broad voltage input tolerance on equipment, 10-18v would allow anything to be run on a car battery and/or alternator in a pinch.
Broad inputs also simplify diy UPS applications, just run a variable power supply in parallel with one or more lead acid batteries to keep them on trickle charge. Up the voltage when required for maintenance charges, or after outages to recharge. If the power ever cuts the batteries are already online and will run until they're dry, or the equipment hits a low voltage limit and shuts down.

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  Reply # 865464 24-Jul-2013 23:20 3 people support this post Send private message

I hope that the 2.4/5GHz frequencies will be concurrent (You can have a 2.4GHz signal broadcasting at the same time as the 5GHz signal) unlike the new Vodafone Station modem where you have to choose from activating only one frequency at any one time which basically nearly defeats the purpose of having a device with both frequencies. People would get annoyed that they can't use their 2.4GHz devices at the same time as their 5GHz devices.

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  Reply # 866739 26-Jul-2013 17:48 2 people support this post Send private message

PaulBags: I and others have said it before but I think it bares repeating: a UPS that outputs 12vdc would be very useful, not much point transforming to 240vac and back again.

Just as useful would be a broad voltage input tolerance on equipment, 10-18v would allow anything to be run on a car battery and/or alternator in a pinch.
Broad inputs also simplify diy UPS applications, just run a variable power supply in parallel with one or more lead acid batteries to keep them on trickle charge. Up the voltage when required for maintenance charges, or after outages to recharge. If the power ever cuts the batteries are already online and will run until they're dry, or the equipment hits a low voltage limit and shuts down.


I too would like to see a 24 volt power supply that comes with it, but the router should accept 10-24 volts as standard. So 24v can be sent up the POE on a lan and a wan port.

In the states, verizon fibre uses an optional 12v battery they supplied and installed in the ONT that attaches like an alarm backup battery or PABX battery - it just has 12v terminals. Verizon stopped supplying the batteries for free recently and you can opt to buy one off them or supply your own and easily install it yourself.

So i would be happy if it just had a couple of 12v screw down terminals on the back so it can be directly hooked up to a battery. If you are running a slave AP off it up the other end of a standard size house, 12v going up the POE will still be okay for a 20-30m run of cat5.




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  Reply # 871620 4-Aug-2013 16:59 Send private message

Any idea how long until we hear more?



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  Reply # 871691 4-Aug-2013 20:00 3 people support this post Send private message

I will check this week.




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  Reply # 874686 9-Aug-2013 16:55 4 people support this post Send private message

freitasm: I will check this week.


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