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  Reply # 970305 20-Jan-2014 21:22 Send private message

michaelmurfy:
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l43a2: whats the deal around using NATed ip's ?


I didn't want to, but shortage of ipv4 addresses unfortunately means we have little choice but to use CG-NAT.    ipv4s are like gold dust at the moment.  It doesn't effect most people. (which obviously isn't much consolation if it does effect you)


Is this potentially why my RDP/http server publishing doesn't work, and why I couldn't sign up for "unblock-us" (error: your IP is already in use)?  I haven't had a chance to look into it yet, and it hasn't been a priority.


That one guy paying for unblock.us has given it to all of us for free. If you're that guy keep paying for it ;)


hmmm, I wonder if that might actually work?

Regs, if you get that error then try using the unbock-us DNS without signing up, does it work?  they only use IP adress for verification, no other method.  so if they think it is already in use, then it should just work.




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  Reply # 970306 20-Jan-2014 21:24 Send private message

good perk of being with Big Pipe free unblock-us :) haha





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  Reply # 970325 20-Jan-2014 21:39 Send private message

BigPipeNZ:
Regs:
BigPipeNZ:
l43a2: whats the deal around using NATed ip's ?


I didn't want to, but shortage of ipv4 addresses unfortunately means we have little choice but to use CG-NAT.    ipv4s are like gold dust at the moment.  It doesn't effect most people. (which obviously isn't much consolation if it does effect you)


Is this potentially why my RDP/http server publishing doesn't work, and why I couldn't sign up for "unblock-us" (error: your IP is already in use)?  I haven't had a chance to look into it yet, and it hasn't been a priority.


This is the first issue with unblock-us we have had, I know several people have been using it just fine (including me), but i'll flag it with the techy guys anyway as it seems a plausible explanation. meantime, you can alwasy try one of the many other DNS services out there like unotelly etc


We can give you a public IP address if you want (but not static IP)

If you do, just submit a support form on our website requesting one.



I'm using Unotelly and that seems to work just fine.  One of the issues about the potential 'free unblock-us' would be that you wouldn't be able to do things like change your Netflix region though....

If the CG-NAT means I cant use RDP or run a web server then that's going to be a problem. No static is ok, with Dynamic DNS, but I regularly need to connect into 'home' in order to do network/site tests etc, and I give my family (who are overseas) access to a self hosted website (ssl/443) so they can browse our photos without the hassle of picking and uploading them to facebook/flickr etc.



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  Reply # 970328 20-Jan-2014 21:43 Send private message

Regs:
BigPipeNZ:
Regs:
BigPipeNZ:
l43a2: whats the deal around using NATed ip's ?


I didn't want to, but shortage of ipv4 addresses unfortunately means we have little choice but to use CG-NAT.    ipv4s are like gold dust at the moment.  It doesn't effect most people. (which obviously isn't much consolation if it does effect you)


Is this potentially why my RDP/http server publishing doesn't work, and why I couldn't sign up for "unblock-us" (error: your IP is already in use)?  I haven't had a chance to look into it yet, and it hasn't been a priority.


This is the first issue with unblock-us we have had, I know several people have been using it just fine (including me), but i'll flag it with the techy guys anyway as it seems a plausible explanation. meantime, you can alwasy try one of the many other DNS services out there like unotelly etc


We can give you a public IP address if you want (but not static IP)

If you do, just submit a support form on our website requesting one.



I'm using Unotelly and that seems to work just fine.  One of the issues about the potential 'free unblock-us' would be that you wouldn't be able to do things like change your Netflix region though....


yes, and not practical in any case since your IP address would change often anyway, so it might be free one day then not the next



If the CG-NAT means I cant use RDP or run a web server then that's going to be a problem. No static is ok, with Dynamic DNS, but I regularly need to connect into 'home' in order to do network/site tests etc, and I give my family (who are overseas) access to a self hosted website (ssl/443) so they can browse our photos without the hassle of picking and uploading them to facebook/flickr etc.


just request a public IP and we can sort that for you, hopefully that will solve your problems.

(and with no data cap, you could just upload all your photos to the cloud anyway - extra redundancy in case your house burns down :P   )




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  Reply # 970332 20-Jan-2014 21:51 Send private message

BigPipeNZ:
(and with no data cap, you could just upload all your photos to the cloud anyway - extra redundancy in case your house burns down :P   )


Yep, I plan to do that.  Again.  But I now have about 220GB of photos and home movies now, and at ADSL1 upload speed of 768kbps its going to take me at least a month of nonstop uploading.  When I can get my act together i'll physically shift the home PC to a fast connection for the initial transfer, then bring back home for the incrementals.

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  Reply # 970364 20-Jan-2014 23:46 Send private message

Just signed up for the trial. liking the looks on prices also, might consider moving to you! :)

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  Reply # 970398 21-Jan-2014 08:12 Send private message

Regarding the CG-NAT, I sent a support request through to get a public IP address and received a response saying they are not available, and it's not possible right now.

I use mine to provide access to the recording scheduler on my HTPC, and this has now broken that quite a bit.

As mentioned by someone else, don't mind using DDNS if static IP's are unavailable, but need a public IP for sure.





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  Reply # 970411 21-Jan-2014 08:43 One person supports this post Send private message

metalla: Regarding the CG-NAT, I sent a support request through to get a public IP address and received a response saying they are not available, and it's not possible right now.

I use mine to provide access to the recording scheduler on my HTPC, and this has now broken that quite a bit.

As mentioned by someone else, don't mind using DDNS if static IP's are unavailable, but need a public IP for sure.




If that was a week ago or more then we hadn't made that decision back then, sorry.

Put another request through now and it should get sorted.


If it was in the last day or two, then can you PM me the name of the person who replied and I will have a chat so they know what the situation is 




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  Reply # 971851 21-Jan-2014 20:14 Send private message

I put the request through yesterday and got that response....

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  Reply # 971854 21-Jan-2014 20:15 Send private message

So I've been getting this to Valve's aus servers since the weekend. I'm assuming it's a problem on their end but they're pretty much impossible to get a hold of and it seems strange that no one else seems to be having issues. Dunno they seem to constantly have routing issues with their aussie servers.

Tracing route to syd.valve.net [103.10.125.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.1.1.1
3 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 100.64.0.1
4 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 10.1.2.2
5 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 203.96.123.101
6 10 ms 7 ms 7 ms vlan-599.tkbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.233.37]
7 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms ae0-10.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.120.105]
8 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms xe6-1-0.sebr1.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.234]
9 30 ms 33 ms 30 ms ae1-10.sebr2.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.242]
10 32 ms 31 ms 32 ms aapt-dom.sebr2.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.118.230]
11 41 ms 31 ms 32 ms lag41.sglebinte01.aapt.net.au [202.10.14.199]
12 32 ms 33 ms 32 ms po40.sglebbrdr01.aapt.net.au [202.10.14.192]
13 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms TenGigE0-3-0-19.chw-edge901.sydney.telstra.net [139.130.209.229]
14 34 ms 33 ms 35 ms bundle-ether13.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.98]
15 33 ms 35 ms 35 ms bundle-ether1.chw48.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.154]
16 39 ms 34 ms 35 ms bundle-ether2.ken39.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.182]
17 32 ms 31 ms 32 ms high985158.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.72.178]
18 139 ms 138 ms 141 ms syd.valve.net [103.10.125.1]

Trace complete.



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  Reply # 971870 21-Jan-2014 20:33 Send private message

Regs: I put the request through yesterday and got that response....

you should have one now.

There was just a bit of confusion as whilst we knew we were going to do it, we thought it was going to take a week to get the process sorted (it didn't), but anybody who has asked for one now should be able to get one within a day or so.


A word or warning though.  

We only have very limited availability for public IPv4 addresses, so if too many people request them we may have to consider charging for the service or stop offering it altogether.

Base on current projections, we should be fine. But I can't make any promises.


Basically, don't request one unless you actually need one and it should all be fine. Pretty please.  




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  Reply # 971872 21-Jan-2014 20:37 Send private message

BigPipeNZ:
Regs: I put the request through yesterday and got that response....

you should have one now.

There was just a bit of confusion as whilst we knew we were going to do it, we thought it was going to take a week to get the process sorted (it didn't), but anybody who has asked for one now should be able to get one within a day or so.


yep, i'm all sorted now, thanks :D

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  Reply # 971901 21-Jan-2014 21:01 Send private message

I find it interesting that your finding it hard to get public IP's? I mean we just ordered another 1000 of them for my work? Those are also static IP's

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  Reply # 971904 21-Jan-2014 21:05 Send private message

Dairusire: I find it interesting that your finding it hard to get public IP's? I mean we just ordered another 1000 of them for my work? Those are also static IP's
ordered 1000 from who?  APNIC?  or has your ISP been hording them :p



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  Reply # 971914 21-Jan-2014 21:16 Send private message

Dairusire: I find it interesting that your finding it hard to get public IP's? I mean we just ordered another 1000 of them for my work? Those are also static IP's


Where did you get them from?

and


How much do you want for them?  





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