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  Reply # 971693 21-Jan-2014 14:49 Send private message

Any stats on the data people are using?

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  Reply # 971732 21-Jan-2014 16:20 Send private message

As I think about this, it doesn't really surprise me that much - when I was on bigtime my daily upload usage usually exceeded my daily download usage at a daily level*.

*For the record, I actually did torrent Linux ISOs. For example, I jumped on the Ubuntu launches etc and once seeding blocked all but other NZ peers, as they were national traffic and my upload traffic to them usually wasn't throttled by the traffic shaping policies.

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  Reply # 971773 21-Jan-2014 17:23 One person supports this post Send private message

Just pay for the movie.. seriously god damn Geekzone cheapsk8s!





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  Reply # 971777 21-Jan-2014 17:26 Send private message

Just wondering, shouldn't the Bigpipe threads be in the telecom forum, as they are subbrand?

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  Reply # 971778 21-Jan-2014 17:30 Send private message

mattwnz: Just wondering, shouldn't the Bigpipe threads be in the telecom forum, as they are subbrand?


or should admin create a new folder called BigPipe?

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  Reply # 971789 21-Jan-2014 18:04 Send private message

Cbfd: Any stats on the data people are using?


Due to Privacy laws i highly doubt they can release those.




 


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  Reply # 971790 21-Jan-2014 18:18 Send private message

TimA: 

Due to Privacy laws i highly doubt they can release those.


Anonymous, aggregated data? (I'm genuinely interested as I would have thought privacy laws dealt more with data linked to identifiable individuals and there wouldn't be an issue with aggregate data)



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  Reply # 971847 21-Jan-2014 20:07 One person supports this post Send private message

Chrizvi:
mattwnz: Just wondering, shouldn't the Bigpipe threads be in the telecom forum, as they are subbrand?


or should admin create a new folder called BigPipe?


probably neither necessary at this point.

We are separate enough that we shouldn't be classed as Telecom  (Flip has it's own forum, for example, despite being owned by Callplus)  but given we are only trial status with very few customers it probably doesn't warrant having our own forum just yet.  

But maybe when/if we launch bigger we might be able to persuade freitasm to give us a forum of our very own   




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  Reply # 971856 21-Jan-2014 20:16 4 people support this post Send private message

sidefx:
TimA: 

Due to Privacy laws i highly doubt they can release those.


Anonymous, aggregated data? (I'm genuinely interested as I would have thought privacy laws dealt more with data linked to identifiable individuals and there wouldn't be an issue with aggregate data)


In theory we could release aggregate data under privacy laws, I suppose.

But, the main obstacle to us doing that though is that we don't actually track it.

We have literally no idea how much data each person is using, either individually or at a total level. 

We get our sharp prices because we try to only spend money on stuff to make the boat go faster pipe get bigger.
So why would we spend the money building systems to track individual users total data usage?  It just wouldn't be very helpful. 

I suppose if we really wanted to know we could probably calculate it by working out exactly how much bandwidth was being used at any given point in time and adding all the seconds up, but that just seems like a huge waste of effort to achieve basically nothing.




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  Reply # 972087 22-Jan-2014 09:50 Send private message

BigPipeNZ:
sidefx:
TimA: 

Due to Privacy laws i highly doubt they can release those.


Anonymous, aggregated data? (I'm genuinely interested as I would have thought privacy laws dealt more with data linked to identifiable individuals and there wouldn't be an issue with aggregate data)


In theory we could release aggregate data under privacy laws, I suppose.

But, the main obstacle to us doing that though is that we don't actually track it.

We have literally no idea how much data each person is using, either individually or at a total level. 

We get our sharp prices because we try to only spend money on stuff to make the boat go faster pipe get bigger.
So why would we spend the money building systems to track individual users total data usage?  It just wouldn't be very helpful. 

I suppose if we really wanted to know we could probably calculate it by working out exactly how much bandwidth was being used at any given point in time and adding all the seconds up, but that just seems like a huge waste of effort to achieve basically nothing.


Very true and makes complete sense. From what i would suspect given it is unlimited most people will download all their steam games and then every version of Linux and seed it.




 




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  Reply # 972182 22-Jan-2014 12:33 Send private message

TimA:
BigPipeNZ:
sidefx:
TimA: 

Due to Privacy laws i highly doubt they can release those.


Anonymous, aggregated data? (I'm genuinely interested as I would have thought privacy laws dealt more with data linked to identifiable individuals and there wouldn't be an issue with aggregate data)


In theory we could release aggregate data under privacy laws, I suppose.

But, the main obstacle to us doing that though is that we don't actually track it.

We have literally no idea how much data each person is using, either individually or at a total level. 

We get our sharp prices because we try to only spend money on stuff to make the boat go faster pipe get bigger.
So why would we spend the money building systems to track individual users total data usage?  It just wouldn't be very helpful. 

I suppose if we really wanted to know we could probably calculate it by working out exactly how much bandwidth was being used at any given point in time and adding all the seconds up, but that just seems like a huge waste of effort to achieve basically nothing.


Very true and makes complete sense. From what i would suspect given it is unlimited most people will download all their steam games and then every version of Linux and seed it.


sounds plausible.

We don't really have enough customers to get any sort of reliable stats for the most part that we can tie back to 'real world' events, but we definitely saw a huge spike in upload the other day, which has since tailed off back to 'expected' levels.

It doesn't take many people seeding Linux iSOs on VDSL without a rate limit to do that.....

I'm guessing the next spike we will see will be when a big patch comes out, or WoW expansion or something like that.







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  Reply # 972322 22-Jan-2014 15:45 Send private message

I consider myself a high user, yet we only download .. ISO's *cough* sometimes, mostly stream content now which actually doesn't use much bandwidth!

So most users you'll find will be normal, once the whole OMG UNLIMITED phase is finished with :) 

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  Reply # 972384 22-Jan-2014 17:24 One person supports this post Send private message

BigPipeNZ:
TimA:
BigPipeNZ:
sidefx:
TimA: 

Due to Privacy laws i highly doubt they can release those.


Anonymous, aggregated data? (I'm genuinely interested as I would have thought privacy laws dealt more with data linked to identifiable individuals and there wouldn't be an issue with aggregate data)


In theory we could release aggregate data under privacy laws, I suppose.

But, the main obstacle to us doing that though is that we don't actually track it.

We have literally no idea how much data each person is using, either individually or at a total level. 

We get our sharp prices because we try to only spend money on stuff to make the boat go faster pipe get bigger.
So why would we spend the money building systems to track individual users total data usage?  It just wouldn't be very helpful. 

I suppose if we really wanted to know we could probably calculate it by working out exactly how much bandwidth was being used at any given point in time and adding all the seconds up, but that just seems like a huge waste of effort to achieve basically nothing.


Very true and makes complete sense. From what i would suspect given it is unlimited most people will download all their steam games and then every version of Linux and seed it.


sounds plausible.

We don't really have enough customers to get any sort of reliable stats for the most part that we can tie back to 'real world' events, but we definitely saw a huge spike in upload the other day, which has since tailed off back to 'expected' levels.

It doesn't take many people seeding Linux iSOs on VDSL without a rate limit to do that.....

I'm guessing the next spike we will see will be when a big patch comes out, or WoW expansion or something like that.



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  Reply # 972394 22-Jan-2014 17:38 Send private message

zCelicaDude: mostly stream content now which actually doesn't use much bandwidth! 


In our house the kids (and Mrs) are pretty good at putting a nice dent in our cap through Netflix :P  (Sure I could turn down the quality in playback settings... but nah)

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  Reply # 976335 28-Jan-2014 23:06

Interesting stat about the uploads being greater. I guess it really shows how popular torrenting really still is. I can understand torrenting/seeding cracked games (maybe). But in this day and age, those games (getting harder and harder to crack) are probably available on Steam.. and there is Netflix and Hulu and other 'dodgy', but good quality, video streams available. Spotify for music, TVNZondemand for NZ TV shows. I stopped torrenting a while ago in favour of more user-friendly, paid, and less 'virusy' streaming services. Hell yes I can play it all on my PS3, desktop and phone, far better quality and far more simple for the rest of the family. Even when I did torrent 'Linux ISOs', I shared a torrent-box with a mate, made the downloads a hell of a load faster overall, and then used way less bandwidth getting onto my PC so could get away with a way smaller data cap.

I just don't understand what/why so many people are still torrenting with fast net the whole idea is that you can stream easy?

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