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  Reply # 1045791 15-May-2014 20:33 Send private message quote this post

Good work on keeping the weight off, especially considering your past. Sometimes the hardest battle is maintaining the weight loss - it also takes awile for your body to change it set point at a lower weight and reach homeostasis at the lower weight. The reason losing weight slower is better for long term results is because your body slowly gets used to and adjusts to lower weight over time - instead of a sudden dramatic weight loss which the body perceives as a threat and tries to get you back to the weight it was comfortable at. Thats why sometimes when you lose weight fast you are very hungry, tired and miserable (body wanting you to eat more, move less, and hormones out of wack). Although fast fat loss or body changes is very motivating and i would prefer to lose it fast too - but you have to be very observant and disciplined with the compensatory reactions from your body - until it has accepted the new lower weight.

I always say - get as far with your body as you can with good nutrition and exercise - when you hit a plateau or feel like you are not progressing any further - then you can throw in the fasting tool. You want to keep these things up your sleeve so when you are struggling with the last 5 - 10kg you have another tool to throw in and shock your body with (body gets used to regime quite quickly and responds very well to new stimulus). You dont want to be using all of your tools and plateau before your goal weight  - with nothing else to throw at your body. Fasting is a good tool for this!

When you are at your goal weight you might then want to reduce the fasting to maybe once a week for instance just to maintain - or even see if you can get away with none at all (see what your body does). Like I say, you dont want your body getting too used to any set regime like fasting tuesday and friday - change it up - stop it for awhile, see what happens etc - test how your body reacts.

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  Reply # 1047865 19-May-2014 10:19 Send private message quote this post

Day 1 on ADF for me today. I figured I would give it a month or so to see how it works for me, and perhaps switch to 5:2 if I find it too difficult to manage. Will update in a few weeks with progress :)




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  Reply # 1047869 19-May-2014 10:24 Send private message quote this post

ADF could be tough, the first day or three is toughest. You have to be pretty motivated to keep it up. What's your programme? No food at all every second day, moderate intake the off day? IMHO keep your protein up, do cardio exercise on the fasting days but nothing too intense.




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  Reply # 1047879 19-May-2014 10:42 Send private message quote this post

timmmay: ADF could be tough, the first day or three is toughest. You have to be pretty motivated to keep it up. What's your programme? No food at all every second day, moderate intake the off day? IMHO keep your protein up, do cardio exercise on the fasting days but nothing too intense.


I find it incredibly difficult to get myself to eat before 11am most days. In fact, I rarely develop hunger pangs until around 4pm-ish. My problem I think is that I'm consuming too many calories when I do eat and need to reduce my intake overall. I'm quite overweight and have been for many years, but at least it isn't going up anymore. My current eating habits are 'maintaining' my weight. Basically just low-carb, protein at each meal, whole food (mostly home-grown, non-processed) so luckily I'm very healthy. We eat pretty much Paleo except that I have to have Dairy - because I can't do without cottage cheese and milk. :P

Today's plan is to have a big bowl of Tom Yum with veg for dinner. :)




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  Reply # 1047916 19-May-2014 11:37 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Demeter:
I find it incredibly difficult to get myself to eat before 11am most days. In fact, I rarely develop hunger pangs until around 4pm-ish. My problem I think is that I'm consuming too many calories when I do eat and need to reduce my intake overall. I'm quite overweight and have been for many years, but at least it isn't going up anymore. My current eating habits are 'maintaining' my weight. Basically just low-carb, protein at each meal, whole food (mostly home-grown, non-processed) so luckily I'm very healthy. We eat pretty much Paleo except that I have to have Dairy - because I can't do without cottage cheese and milk. :P

Today's plan is to have a big bowl of Tom Yum with veg for dinner. :)


Put your food and exercise HONESTLY and accurately into www.myfitnesspal.com for a week. If you like PM me and share the diary with me and I'll look. I have no qualifications at all, but I'd be an objective eye at least.




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  Reply # 1047921 19-May-2014 11:42 Send private message quote this post

timmmay: Put your food and exercise HONESTLY and accurately into www.myfitnesspal.com for a week. If you like PM me and share the diary with me and I'll look. I have no qualifications at all, but I'd be an objective eye at least.


Thanks, I'll take you up on that! Catch up with you in a week's time. I'll try to eat as normally as possible on my non-fasting days.




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  Reply # 1050655 21-May-2014 20:17 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

First time I've seen this thread and find it interesting to see the opinions of all especially the comments relating to heavy weights on "fast days". When I started 5:2 in December I had a goal to drop 10kg from 115kg for my graduation which was last week. Every weigh in, I was surprised at how much success I was having with reduced blood pressure readings and dropping 25kg in total. The challenge now is to reduce the excess stomach fat and try gain some muscle, something I've never really had success with.  



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  Reply # 1050666 21-May-2014 20:54 Send private message quote this post

Nice one Clark, 25kg is awesome. I used to be 100kg, I know what it's like to lose that much weight - I went from 100kg to 68kg in 3-4 months on Atkins, many years ago, gym 6 days a week including heavy heavy weights. Keep up the good work :)




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  Reply # 1119034 31-Aug-2014 17:37 Send private message quote this post

hey all,

 just found this thread, wow.

i see its been a few months since any post & it was locked, but I request an unlock cos I wanted to  find out more from anyone thats done this diet or on it.

Ive watched the documentary & it really was informative & helpful.

Id love to find out what new progress or updates anyone has had on this diet, any advise about it, tips & your general thoughts. :)

Im thinking about doing this diet, have just recently got the ebook since watching the Doco.



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  Reply # 1119035 31-Aug-2014 17:41 Send private message quote this post

It worked great for me before my wedding. I stayed on it during the honeymoon, worked then too. Since then I started lifting heavy weights, so I need to eat more often, but the variation I'm currently doing is not eating breakfast, which gives me a 16 hour fast each day. I only eat two meals most days, basically people eat too much and you can't practically exercise it all off. I've put on 3kg, some of which is muscle, but you need to eat a bit more to gain muscle anyway.

5:2 in all it ranks up there with Atkins for the quickest and easiest way I've ever lost weight.




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  Reply # 1119095 31-Aug-2014 19:25 Send private message quote this post

I have been doing it nearly 14 months now, the first 12 for the two full days, but after a year I was happy with the amount of weight I'd lost so have since dropped down to one day a week. TBH, one day is just so much easier, but I'm glad I stuck it out for that period.

For me, it's hard to separate out the impact of the diet from other factors (ie also introducing daily exercise) as it was a part of my new 'lifestyle' I considered necessary as I approached 40 overweight and unfit! That said, it clearly played a big role in the weight loss. Now, it's a matter of monitoring, which I am a bit slack on, but I will have extra-light lunches say after a big dinner the night before -this kind of thing I'd never have done prior.

So, I'd definitely recommend giving it a go as it does really work well for some. I would say though I couldn't have sustained the two days for much longer! As I've commented earlier in this thread, my main criticism of the book (and doco) is the lack of information on what makes up a healthy diet, as if simply counting and limiting calories two days is the answer. It requires the addition of basing it around good nutrition, especially for those two days.



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  Reply # 1119101 31-Aug-2014 19:36 Send private message quote this post

I just want to point out it's non-sequential days, eg Mon and Thu.




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  Reply # 1120812 2-Sep-2014 20:38 Send private message quote this post

thanks for the updates, good to hear that it is still doable, even if its modified.

I agree about the doco - there was a lack of information about nutrition & actual diet. 1 researcher said it made no difference in the test reasults of someone eating healthy vs someone eating anything. I find that hard to believe!!

I've not read the book yet but do plan to.

Im still in the planning stages of this & getting the right motivation to get myself healthy & fit again. Its certainly easy to let things slip - always harder to get things back on track!

anyone that has info to share, please keep on posting! :)



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  Reply # 1120826 2-Sep-2014 21:02 Send private message quote this post

If you don't stick to a good calorie controlled healthy diet on your normal days you'll gain weight not lose it, in my experience.




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  Reply # 1123839 7-Sep-2014 20:47 Send private message quote this post

timmmay: If you don't stick to a good calorie controlled healthy diet on your normal days you'll gain weight not lose it, in my experience.


oh I completely agree 100% !

I thought it ridiculous & irresponsible of that researcher to say that it didnt matter from there research. Makes No sense at all.

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