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  Reply # 1015970 31-Mar-2014 12:46 Send private message

tripper1000:

Why would suicide pilot not nose dive into the ground? - not enough mystery to embarrass the airline and the Malaysian government. That would practically be an open and shut case. The world would forget about it after two weeks. The world won't forget about this in a long time. The Chinese certainly think the Malaysians are muppets now. The pilot had just come from a trial were a former premiere of Malaysia had just been found guilt of corruption, and he was very unhappy about it. <speculation>: I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the pilot was in some kind of dispute with his employers - although if so, they certainly won't be admitting it to the media. 



Actually, Anwar Ibrahim was not a former premier, and he was convicted of sodomy, not corruption.  http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/07/us-malaysia-anwar-idUSBREA260HM20140307 Although there is some supposition that this was a way of targeting him, because he was an opponent of corruption.

Given the pilot's apparent close interest in the court case, perhaps he was gay? <speculation> Maybe a threat of exposure might have been a suicide trigger?

On another topic, there has been speculation that the pilot may have deliberated lowered the cabin pressure to incapacitate passengers and crew. I'm wondering how far the cabin pressure could be lowered? Could it be lowered to the same as the outside atmosphere (say 35,000ft)? Or would that take some kind of rupture of the aircraft skin?


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  Reply # 1015998 31-Mar-2014 13:38 2 people support this post Send private message

I personally think speculation on the cause of the crash and the character assassination of the captain with NO HARD FACTS is absolutely disgusting.

News outlets and the individuals claiming this guy committed suicide and murdered 300 people without any real information as to what happened should feel ashamed.

Guy was going through a tough situation sure, doesn't mean he deliberately crashed the plane.



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  Reply # 1016004 31-Mar-2014 13:40 Send private message

 
Guy was going through a tough situation sure, doesn't mean he deliberately crashed the plane.




Considering they can't even find the damn plane I'd be inclined to agree. 



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  Reply # 1016036 31-Mar-2014 14:18 Send private message

Speculation the pilot was gay is probably just silly. The trial, Ibrahim was a deputy prime minister of the current ruling party [until he started an anti corruption initiative. Huge numbers of people in Malaysia follow the events closely and it has been a current issue for years now

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Justice_Party_(Malaysia)




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  Reply # 1016039 31-Mar-2014 14:22 One person supports this post Send private message

wasabi2k: I personally think speculation on the cause of the crash and the character assassination of the captain with NO HARD FACTS is absolutely disgusting.

News outlets and the individuals claiming this guy committed suicide and murdered 300 people without any real information as to what happened should feel ashamed.

Guy was going through a tough situation sure, doesn't mean he deliberately crashed the plane.

This exactly! 60 Minutes Australia did this last night, and it was disgusting. 

Then, in another story, they accused an 82 year old of the murder of his wife 24 years ago, even though he hasn't been arrested yet. Based on "evidence" from a book a school teacher wrote in her spare time.

"Trial by media" and "guilty until proven innocent" spring to mind. All in the name of ratings.

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  Reply # 1016102 31-Mar-2014 17:03 Send private message

wasabi2k: I personally think speculation on the cause of the crash and the character assassination of the captain with NO HARD FACTS is absolutely disgusting.


I'm not sure... was that aimed at my suggestion that the captain might be gay?

Please... it wasn't meant as character assassination in any way. Personally, I don't care whether he was gay or not, and don't think that being gay is a bad thing.

But, in a country where 'sodomy' is a crime punishable by 5 years (or more?) in prison, homosexuality is probably generally perceived as a bad thing, and, even if you felt OK about your homosexuality, you would want to hide it for fear of prison.


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  Reply # 1016189 31-Mar-2014 19:42 Send private message

blakamin:
wasabi2k: I personally think speculation on the cause of the crash and the character assassination of the captain with NO HARD FACTS is absolutely disgusting.

News outlets and the individuals claiming this guy committed suicide and murdered 300 people without any real information as to what happened should feel ashamed.

Guy was going through a tough situation sure, doesn't mean he deliberately crashed the plane.

This exactly! 60 Minutes Australia did this last night, and it was disgusting. 

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Then you can bet that Prime NZ will have it on their version of 60 Minutes  ASAP..




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  Reply # 1016205 31-Mar-2014 20:32 Send private message

frankv:

On another topic, there has been speculation that the pilot may have deliberated lowered the cabin pressure to incapacitate passengers and crew. I'm wondering how far the cabin pressure could be lowered? Could it be lowered to the same as the outside atmosphere (say 35,000ft)? Or would that take some kind of rupture of the aircraft skin?



The cabin can be raised to the same altitude as the aircraft by using the dump valve.  This would/could happen to vent the cabin of fumes, which is a very rare occurrence.

While suicide is certainly a possibility, IF we believe some of the other things that are supposed to have occurred on that flight, then it was a very well though out action. Not an action that happened because of the event surrounding the Deputy Premier, or who ever the distant relation of the Captains was, that involved the court proceedings that day.




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  Reply # 1016206 31-Mar-2014 20:36 Send private message

Let the media do it, driving a nail into their own coffins.
recent smear campaigns and totally one sided reporting is at an all time high, regular examples of dumbed down thinking and hypocrisy.
Considering their business model is dying you would think this would be the last thing they would let happen.
The worst part is some of it will find it's way onto the internet


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  Reply # 1016391 1-Apr-2014 09:57 Send private message

April 1 news has it that the final words from the cockpit is now "Good night Malaysian three seven zero."

real or not?

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  Reply # 1016392 1-Apr-2014 09:57 Send private message

Edit: ok the cnn article is dated 31 March

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  Reply # 1016413 1-Apr-2014 10:25 Send private message

joker97: rule number 1 - never believe anything the Malaysian government says

rule number 2 - refer rule number 1


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  Reply # 1016540 1-Apr-2014 13:08 Send private message

joker97: April 1 news has it that the final words from the cockpit is now "Good night Malaysian three seven zero."

real or not?


What would be the significance of that?


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  Reply # 1016549 1-Apr-2014 13:28 Send private message

joker97: April 1 news has it that the final words from the cockpit is now "Good night Malaysian three seven zero."

real or not?


Since all this broke weeks ago, the final words were "All right, Good night"



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  Reply # 1016593 1-Apr-2014 14:13 Send private message

Journeyman:
joker97: April 1 news has it that the final words from the cockpit is now "Good night Malaysian three seven zero."

real or not?


What would be the significance of that?



So we are spending millions of dollarlls a day looking in the Indian ocean because who said it was the right place to look? It wasn't Australia by the way

Keep in mind they move the search zone every now and again.

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