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  Reply # 1013270 26-Mar-2014 16:20 Send private message

freitasm: New Zealand's Top 100 Hig Risk Intersections (PDF) released today.

Wellington, Couternay Pl and Taranaki: really? They have traffic lights there. Muppets will be muppets.

 


It's a busy intersection but a well controlled one, weird.




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  Reply # 1013277 26-Mar-2014 16:40 2 people support this post Send private message

I drive a diesel and all the passing lanes seem to be uphill, I have no issue getting to 110km/h going uphills but getting to 120km/h is a struggle. Id like pass someone that was doing 80kn/h on the flats and slowing to 60km/h for unmarked corners but then there car magically will do 100km/h when there is a passing lane and by the time i get the old diesel doing 110km/h the passing lane is finished and im stuck behind the slow dangerous driver for the next 20km most of the time i don't even bother trying. FML

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  Reply # 1013331 26-Mar-2014 18:00 2 people support this post Send private message

Buzz Bumble: 
Again, the "passing lanes" are not there for speed freaks to zoom past the other cars. They are there so cars can pass slower heavy vehicles like trucks, busses, car towing boats / caravans, etc. Some of these vehicles are not allowed to drive at 100km/h in some places.


No one is talking about speed freaks.  Passing lanes are there for that exact purpose, to pass slower traffic. Show us where it's stated they are only to be used to pass cars towing boats/caravans/trailers, buses and trucks.

People who choose to drive well below the speed limit and then speed up on passing lanes are inconsiderate muppets, nothing more nothing less.  

They deserve a ticket as much if not more than someone driving 10 to 15 m/hr over the limit.

They are the drivers that make other drivers impatient, the result is those drivers doing something unsafe to get past them.  Very often these same slow drivers never slow down when going through a 70 k or 50 k zone, or, if they do they only slow down marginally.

If they choose to travel at a speed well below the speed limit for most of their journey, speeding up on a passing lane is not going to make any material difference to their travel time.  If they are so disconnected that they don't realise they speed up then they probably shouldn't be driving.




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  Reply # 1013337 26-Mar-2014 18:24 Send private message

Technofreak:
If they choose to travel at a speed well blow the speed limit for most of their journey, speeding up on a passing lane is not going to make any material difference to their travel time.  If they are so disconnected that they don't realise they speed up then they probably shouldn't be driving.


This, so very much this.




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  Reply # 1013370 26-Mar-2014 19:01 Send private message


Technofreak: People who choose to drive well below the speed limit and then speed up on passing lanes are inconsiderate muppets, nothing more nothing less. ... If they choose to travel at a speed well below the speed limit for most of their journey, speeding up on a passing lane is not going to make any material difference to their travel time.


WOOSH!! Straight over the top ... maybe it is rocket science after all. :-\




Klipspringer:
My pet hate is where two lanes merge into one and traffic is backed up, the left lane backed up the most, the right lane partially clear...
Drivers in the left hand lane pull dangerously into the center of both lanes when they see you coming past in the right towards the merge. Or they just pull out into the right lane, and drive extemely slowly. To them they have this mentality that they were "here first". And you have no right to overtake.


On Auckland's Northern Motorwway there's a section which has three lanes and then narrows down to two lanes, with the left-hand and centre lanes merging, but before the merge point there is a busy off-ramp. so at peak afternoon time all the lanes are usually going quite slowly. After the off-ramp the left-hand lane is usually empty, so you always get idiot hoons who move from the middle lane into the empty left lane, zoom up, and then try to push back in further up where it merges ... saving a few seconds at most. More often than not they get stuck at the traffic lights of a later off-ramp, where I pass them on a free left turn. They achieved absolutely nothing, other than adding to the congestion problem. :-\

It was great sight the other night when I saw a couple of idiots in my mirror try to do that only to have a big slow moving truck in a few cars ahead pull into the left lane at the same time and they then had had to crawl along behind the truck while the middle lane moved past them faster.

Auckland's badly designed motorway system also has quite a few on ramps that either merge with or create their own lane, which then quickly becomes an "exit only" lane at the very next off-ramp, so all the drivers wanting to go further along the motorway have to try to push over an extra lane.



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  Reply # 1013374 26-Mar-2014 19:18 Send private message

Buzz Bumble:

Technofreak: People who choose to drive well below the speed limit and then speed up on passing lanes are inconsiderate muppets, nothing more nothing less. ... If they choose to travel at a speed well below the speed limit for most of their journey, speeding up on a passing lane is not going to make any material difference to their travel time.


WOOSH!! Straight over the top ... maybe it is rocket science after all. :-\



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  Reply # 1013390 26-Mar-2014 19:46 One person supports this post Send private message

Technofreak:
Buzz Bumble:

Technofreak: People who choose to drive well below the speed limit and then speed up on passing lanes are inconsiderate muppets, nothing more nothing less. ... If they choose to travel at a speed well below the speed limit for most of their journey, speeding up on a passing lane is not going to make any material difference to their travel time.


WOOSH!! Straight over the top ... maybe it is rocket science after all. :-\



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The member does that over the head thing when wrong.




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  Reply # 1013393 26-Mar-2014 20:02 Send private message

With regards to speeding up on passing lanes, if they have been doing 90KM/h in a 100K zone, I let it go. If its 70KM and we're two passing lanes in to the journey, I lay in to them with the horn until they slow down and I can pass safely. It does make a difference on a long drive.

The dome up north is a different story. People do the same thing, other cars pass the muppets misusing the lanes and get stuck behind a truck 500M later. No amount of passing lanes will help your travel time on that road...Unless 30 seconds is an achievement for you.

Being a dick about driving is a two way street. Pun absolutely intended.





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  Reply # 1013399 26-Mar-2014 20:38 One person supports this post Send private message

Klipspringer: 

It use to be its worst on SH1 between Paraparaumu and Waikanae. There was a two lane stretch just before reaching the merge in waikanae. If you were ever caught in that traffic, dont dare ride in the right hand lane. The drivers in the left don't like it. Thank goodness they have now made it a single lane.

The reason people did that was because nobody in NZ knows how to merge and having 2 lanes into one just created a bigger bottleneck.
Another place it used to happen was just before Pukerua Bay.
That one was mainly caused by people being "courteous" and stopping a whole rush hour of traffic to let one or 2 cars out of a side street when, really, there'd be a gap from a truck in the next minute or so anyway. But even trucks can catch up when everyone is doing 5kp/h.
Instead, they just stop, let a car out, and create a knock-on effect going all the way back to Whenua Tapu.

NZ's biggest issue is ignorance, and no respect for the people behind.

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  Reply # 1013400 26-Mar-2014 20:41 4 people support this post Send private message

Buzz Bumble: 

When I said narrow, I also meant where there is only a single lane in each direction. For many people it feels unsafe driving at 100km/h+ with the only thing separating you from the cars coming the other way is a painted line down the middle of the road and a couple of feet. When you get to the "passing lane" the road is obviously wider and there is an extra lane between the two directions (for those in the left lane), so it feels safer and they can drive faster.


THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE OPEN ROAD!

Stick to 50kp/h zones.

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  Reply # 1013460 26-Mar-2014 22:03 Send private message

blakamin:
Buzz Bumble: 

When I said narrow, I also meant where there is only a single lane in each direction. For many people it feels unsafe driving at 100km/h+ with the only thing separating you from the cars coming the other way is a painted line down the middle of the road and a couple of feet. When you get to the "passing lane" the road is obviously wider and there is an extra lane between the two directions (for those in the left lane), so it feels safer and they can drive faster.


THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE OPEN ROAD!

Stick to 50kp/h zones.


I with you on this also if you cant eat a hot pie while holding a drink and change the radio while driving then you should not be driving either:) 

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  Reply # 1013649 27-Mar-2014 09:19 Send private message

Buzz Bumble: On Auckland's Northern Motorwway there's a section which has three lanes and then narrows down to two lanes, with the left-hand and centre lanes merging, but before the merge point there is a busy off-ramp. so at peak afternoon time all the lanes are usually going quite slowly. After the off-ramp the left-hand lane is usually empty, so you always get idiot hoons who move from the middle lane into the empty left lane, zoom up, and then try to push back in further up where it merges ... saving a few seconds at most.

Constellation -> Greville?

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  Reply # 1013666 27-Mar-2014 09:30 Send private message


bazzer:
Buzz Bumble: On Auckland's Northern Motorwway there's a section which has three lanes and then narrows down to two lanes, with the left-hand and centre lanes merging, but before the merge point there is a busy off-ramp. so at peak afternoon time all the lanes are usually going quite slowly. After the off-ramp the left-hand lane is usually empty, so you always get idiot hoons who move from the middle lane into the empty left lane, zoom up, and then try to push back in further up where it merges ... saving a few seconds at most.


Constellation -> Greville?


Tristram to Constellation over bridge (the merge is on the overbridge). They've started work on making it three lanes through to Albany Highway or Othea Valley.





blakamin: THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE OPEN ROAD!

Stick to 50kp/h zones.


And here we have the typical selfish attitude responsible for 90% of the roads hoon and bad driving problems. :-\



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  Reply # 1013676 27-Mar-2014 09:39 Send private message

Buzz Bumble: No, no, no ... the real rule is "Merge like a battering ram". :-(


I almost got taken out in Takapuna the other day. I would have preferred to be taken out for a meal rather than a battering ram! By an Audi no less and ofcourse snotty teen in the front seat gave me the finger.  I had right of way driving up from the wharf.

I came to the top of the intersection and as they were turning right, I wound down my window and asked the driver if he would like to borrow my glasses or let my dog drive as it would do a better job than him ;-)

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  Reply # 1013696 27-Mar-2014 10:12 One person supports this post Send private message

Buzz Bumble:

bazzer:
Buzz Bumble: On Auckland's Northern Motorwway there's a section which has three lanes and then narrows down to two lanes, with the left-hand and centre lanes merging, but before the merge point there is a busy off-ramp. so at peak afternoon time all the lanes are usually going quite slowly. After the off-ramp the left-hand lane is usually empty, so you always get idiot hoons who move from the middle lane into the empty left lane, zoom up, and then try to push back in further up where it merges ... saving a few seconds at most.


Constellation -> Greville?


Tristram to Constellation over bridge (the merge is on the overbridge). They've started work on making it three lanes through to Albany Highway or Othea Valley.





blakamin: THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE OPEN ROAD!

Stick to 50kp/h zones.


And here we have the typical selfish attitude responsible for 90% of the roads hoon and bad driving problems. :-\




Then explain how it is safer? when coming around a blind bend at say 90km/h and encounter a car in front of you only doing 60km/h. Again explain how this is safer under your premise, travelling along SH1 and you get behind a car doing 60km/h, unable to pass but constantly having to flash your brakes to slow approaching vehicles behind you so you don't get tail ended by a car travelling 100km/h.





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 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

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