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Topic # 143351 11-Apr-2014 20:27 Send private message

1998 Camry.  Trademe's current market value @ $2,000. 

They don't recall a timing belt has been done.  They bought in 2008 with 90,000 on the odometer and it's now 208,000. 

The drive belt and the power steering belt was done last year when the car wouldn't start at the supermarket carpark.  One of them says, due to the age of the car is it worth the bother or just get another car in time. 

Probably a $800 job - timing belt, tensioners, seal and the water pump.
Let alone flush the trans $350 or spend more money in flushing the brakes, coolant etc if they are performing now. 

Cost them $5,500 at time of purchase.

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  Reply # 1023598 11-Apr-2014 20:27 Send private message

Hmmmm. Here we go.




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  Reply # 1023603 11-Apr-2014 20:36 Send private message

Yer.
If you want it to keep working. Might be logical to replace such.
If not run it into the god damn ground!




 


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  Reply # 1023623 11-Apr-2014 21:21 Send private message

rayonline: 1998 Camry.  Trademe's current market value @ $2,000. 

They don't recall a timing belt has been done.  They bought in 2008 with 90,000 on the odometer and it's now 208,000. 

The drive belt and the power steering belt was done last year when the car wouldn't start at the supermarket carpark.  One of them says, due to the age of the car is it worth the bother or just get another car in time. 

Probably a $800 job - timing belt, tensioners, seal and the water pump.
Let alone flush the trans $350 or spend more money in flushing the brakes, coolant etc if they are performing now. 

Cost them $5,500 at time of purchase. 


Ha I saw an ad at Tauranga Toyota dealer last week. $350 inc GST to replace timing belt for all Toyota model.





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  Reply # 1023641 11-Apr-2014 21:42 Send private message

Yeah your quote sounds kinda steep.  If the timing belt breaks kiss goodbye to your engine.  If you can live with that risk then run her till she's dead. 




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  Reply # 1023644 11-Apr-2014 21:46 Send private message

Not a quote, just googled around NZ for that.  That includes the waterpump etc.  Not in AKL thou.  I read that some NZ Mitsu or Euro's are bit over $1,000. 

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  Reply # 1023701 11-Apr-2014 22:53 One person supports this post Send private message

definitely do the cambelt.  Easy job if its a 4 cylinder.  Not sure if its a v6 as havent done a v6 one.   We ran a few of them at work.  We just changed belt and tensioner at 100,000 and did belt,tensioner,seals and waterpump at the 200.000 mark.




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  Reply # 1023703 11-Apr-2014 23:01 One person supports this post Send private message

Gilco2: definitely do the cambelt.  (edited) did belt,tensioner,seals and waterpump at the 200.000 mark.

This!

Lunch the engine and the price drops from $2k to about $200....
over 200k without a waterpump is trouble... the cambelt after that many k's.... time bomb.

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  Reply # 1023742 12-Apr-2014 00:29 One person supports this post Send private message

First of all find out if the engine is an interference engine or not. If it is an interference engine, cambelt breaks - expensive engine damage likely. If it is an non interference engine, belt breaks - just install a new belt and everything is fine again.

To check if your engine is interference or not first find out what your engine number is. Toyota engine numbers are this sort of format: 3S-FE, 4A-GE, 1UZ-FE ect If your Camry is 4 cylinder then it might be a 3S-FE. Or if it is a V6 then it might be a 3VZ-FE or 1MZ-FE.

Then you can google the engine code to find out if it is interference or not.

And don't assume that just because an engine is chain drive that it will never fail. I have seen forum posts that claim that alot of VE Holden commodores have issues with their timing chains and tensioners. With one of the issues being the timing chain stretching. Which causes the check engine light to come on. And the claimed fix is an ECU software update. And if mechanical repairs are required then supposedly very expensive to fix.


And I know someone who has a mid 90s Ford Falcon that had the chain tensioner and cam sprocket fail.



My ideal car engine? One that is a non interference cambelt engine. Since you have all the advantages of a cambelt. But without cascading failures if the belt (or chain) fails.


Had the cambelt snap on my 89 Corolla that had (at the time) a 4A-F engine. Bought a brand new cambelt for about $30. Mechanic mate helped me install it. The corolla worked fine again.

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  Reply # 1023751 12-Apr-2014 01:31 Send private message

Mums modern car had a timing belt go and destroyed the engine. Every push rod was bent apart from one and 2/4 of the pistons conrods.




 


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  Reply # 1023779 12-Apr-2014 04:28 Send private message

Timing belt or timing chain for this engine? Did the mechanic identify any specific issues or is this a general quote for a 'typical' job of this nature?

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  Reply # 1023785 12-Apr-2014 06:54 Send private message

IfmeI would just do the cambelt.    Some people say check if it is interference engine etc and other things.  

think you drive at night and then the belt snaps and you are stranded. What does it matteer if it is non intereference.  You are stuck possibly miles from home on a dark wet night and have to find a way to get home for yourself and the car.   If it is non interferer it will be cheaper to fix but you still have the inconvenience finding a way home




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  Reply # 1023786 12-Apr-2014 06:56 Send private message

Cam Chain no don't worry about it Cam Belt yes get it done




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  Reply # 1023787 12-Apr-2014 07:06 Send private message

If a cambelt breaks, goodbye engine.

Had mine done a few months ago. $350 for belt, water pump and crank seals.

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  Reply # 1023807 12-Apr-2014 07:50 Send private message

I have a 89 Toyota corona. these cars have recessed valves so if the belt does go (as mine did) no damage to the engine and simply needs a new one put in.

but anyway a Toyota shouldn't cost to much to get a new cam put in

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  Reply # 1023821 12-Apr-2014 09:32 Send private message

90's + early 00's Toyota and nissan are the easiest to fix and work on a good mechanic can do a cam replacement in under 3hrs incl waterpump it should be done as part of regular service as an engine that's looked after (regular oil, water and air) will do well over 300,000km without taking the head off.

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