Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




250 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 43


Topic # 213946 20-Apr-2017 12:09 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Interesting article in NZ Herald (and yes I know it's not the best place to be getting this information from).

 

I wonder if there's any substance to this claim.

 

Bose headphones spying on you


Create new topic
1912 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 225

Subscriber

  Reply # 1767854 20-Apr-2017 12:16 Send private message quote this post

 Another of these stories jumping on the bandwagon of Corporates etc spying on everything you do.  What is the big deal if Bose knows what music you are listening to, if in fact they really care or this is even true?


15988 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1817

Trusted

  Reply # 1768565 21-Apr-2017 19:28 Send private message quote this post

I'm more worried about Apple Google and Facebook spying on me not to mention a whole host of cloud based software and backup services.

825 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 356

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1768616 21-Apr-2017 21:14 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Satch:

 

 Another of these stories jumping on the bandwagon of Corporates etc spying on everything you do.  What is the big deal if Bose knows what music you are listening to, if in fact they really care or this is even true?

 

 

I think the point is not that they know but they are collecting and selling the data without anyone's permission. Companies like Google are at least up front about what they do.






2122 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 768


  Reply # 1768753 22-Apr-2017 10:10 Send private message quote this post

Typical sloppy click-bait Herald reporting.

 

The headphones aren't sending back *any* information.

 

An app that Bose has released apparently is. This is an issue, and would be enough to stopp me buying the product. But you have to install it and (I gather) agree to the TOS, and it isn't remotely the same thing as plugging in a pair of headphones and having them mysteriously spy on everything you do.

 

A more realistic headline would be "Bose App reports your usage information", but I guess that isn't as "exciting", and wouldn't sucker as many people into clicking through?


3526 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 479

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1768803 22-Apr-2017 12:00 Send private message quote this post

At this stage it remains nothing more than an allegation.

 


739 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 185

Trusted

  Reply # 1768810 22-Apr-2017 12:28 Send private message quote this post

So they admit they collect information, they don't specify it's information they've gathered consent for, and "by name" falls short of "personally identifiable". Also there's a number of reasons they could give your information to a third party without selling it, e.g. they could pay a third party to process the information, or they could be selling aggregate information.

Sounds like an admission of guilt to me.

1190 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 61

Subscriber

  Reply # 1768852 22-Apr-2017 13:19 Send private message quote this post

PaulBags: So they admit they collect information, they don't specify it's information they've gathered consent for, and "by name" falls short of "personally identifiable". Also there's a number of reasons they could give your information to a third party without selling it, e.g. they could pay a third party to process the information, or they could be selling aggregate information.

Sounds like an admission of guilt to me.

 

 

 

No, sounds like they are just like any other company...they collect some info to provide statistics to enable them to develop the next best thing.

 

How many apps do you use that you can honestly say dont do the same?

 

It is no different to the 'old days' when people would simply get "manual surveys" on how they use their products or those tick boxes you saw when filling out warranty cards (asking for info such as "what are you going to use this for"). 

 

 

 

Given its bose, I would say they are interested in more about the format and quality of the 'files' you listen to in order for them to develop their sound processing. 

 

 


739 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 185

Trusted

  Reply # 1768861 22-Apr-2017 13:50 Send private message quote this post

I disagree, there's a big difference between manual survey and automated gathering without consent.

The apps I use? AdAway blocks ads, Lightening wall blocks any app I don't need accessing the internet, and for the most part I only install apps that have appropriate permission requirements. I also disable anything that syncs anything to anywhere for any reason, I keep everything local to the device. I can't say for certain there's nothing untoward going on, because I don't have the tools or motivation to packet sniff my phone. But I certainly wouldn't be installing any app that says 'we gather some information' and then proceeds to weasel their way into doing whatever they want with the kind of language Bose has been quoted with above.

Argh, this reminds me I have to find a non-root firewall for my new phone, that's if PB Tech ever sends it (it's been over a week, and it's been in stock the whole time...)

Stu

Hammered
4480 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 802

Moderator
Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1768937 22-Apr-2017 15:14 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

No different from most other apps. Seems nothing more than a storm in a teacup, as always.




 Keep Calm

 

and 

 

Try not to look too dodgy!


1672 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 673

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1768993 22-Apr-2017 18:07 Send private message quote this post

Stu: No different from most other apps. Seems nothing more than a storm in a teacup, as always.

 

Most other apps that do it are up front about it. Google, for example - and, after open acknowledgement of this, in return, I don't have to hand any cash over to use their services.

 

Bose, on the other hand, charge like wounded bulls for their products, and never disclosed to consumers that their app was silently watching and reporting back to base.

 

So Bose go on the list, directly after VW, of companies that won't get any of my cash.


Create new topic








Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:






Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.