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Topic # 97551 16-Feb-2012 13:29 Send private message

I've been researching for a new TV purchase and became aware of a major issue in European Samsung TVs after reading the hdtvtest review (UE series). It seems that Samsung D6xxx series LED/LCD TVs will not display "Full HD 3D" as per the product claim.

Can anybody confirm that this is also the case with the Samsung "UA" D6 series TVs available in Asia/Pacific?

It seems terribly misleading if this is the case? While some may think of 3D as a bonus feature, it is a key selling point for many others (including the manufacturer).

Links:
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-ue40d6530-ue32d6530-201108131337.htm
http://wiki.samygo.tv/index.php5/D6x00_TVs_FULL_HD_3D_Defect

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  Reply # 582456 16-Feb-2012 16:52 Send private message

Well that's a bit dodgy to say the least.

I still maintain that 3D is a relatively useless gimmick, but if it's something you place a lot of value in, it'd probably be worth getting a decent quality set rather than a budget model anyway. (i.e - at least a 7 series, or another brand).

Sounds like they just put some cheap processing hardware in there so they could stick "3D" on the label and get in on the action.

I had a look at one LGs passive sets at JB HiFi and found the quality to be pretty good considering, I still refuse to wear sunglasses whilst watching TV though.




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  Reply # 582471 16-Feb-2012 17:20 Send private message

Yes the D6000-6600 have full 1080P 3D

However, it's still a gimmick. I originally bought 4 pairs of glasses with my TV last June. Have sold all 4 already, having only ever played one movie "Megamind" and about 3 Playstation games on it. It's just pointless technology at the moment

Once OLED screens with glassless 3D are around, then I'll get another one. Till then I don't see the point in having to wear another pair of glasses!




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  Reply # 582472 16-Feb-2012 17:21 Send private message

stevenz: I had a look at one LGs passive sets at JB HiFi and found the quality to be pretty good considering, I still refuse to wear sunglasses whilst watching TV though.


Totally agree, I'm not paying $6k for laser eye surgery, just to have to put glasses back on again to watch a movie :)  




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  Reply # 582481 16-Feb-2012 17:38 Send private message

vinnieg: Yes the D6000-6600 have full 1080P 3D


Are you absolutely sure? You need to do a test first, there's 2D and 3D test images provided on the second link. The entire point is you can't believe what the manufacturer has claimed. There are a lot of disappointed European owners.

I'd be very interested if an UA D6xxx owner could try testing for the half resolution issue as seen on the UE models. Actually it's even less than 1/2 on the right eye (in the article).

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  Reply # 582501 16-Feb-2012 18:28 Send private message

Linuxluver needs to chime in, he's a 3D guru, very knowledgable


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  Reply # 582603 16-Feb-2012 22:36 Send private message

katipo:
vinnieg: Yes the D6000-6600 have full 1080P 3D


Are you absolutely sure? You need to do a test first, there's 2D and 3D test images provided on the second link. The entire point is you can't believe what the manufacturer has claimed. There are a lot of disappointed European owners.

I'd be very interested if an UA D6xxx owner could try testing for the half resolution issue as seen on the UE models. Actually it's even less than 1/2 on the right eye (in the article).


 

UE32D6100 drops the resolution when displaying the 3D test images via usb stick or network provided at the link from http://wiki.samygo.tv site

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  Reply # 582616 16-Feb-2012 23:08 Send private message

Very curious.

I have a UA46D6000 and have just tested using the 3D files in the above link.
Definitely not Full HD when viewing the 3D 1080p image file. The text "abcde..." is unreadable, and it definitely looks like an unscaled 720p image or something.

That's not good. 



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  Reply # 582977 17-Feb-2012 21:06 Send private message

Thanks for the feedback guys.

I placed the test images (2D JPG and 3D MPO) on a flash drive, and went to a showroom to see if they'd let me test a couple of TVs out. I can confirm that the 46D6600 (top model of the D6 series in 46") has the issue, but the 46D7000 doesn't (as expected). So it appears that all the D6 series TVs are affected (as per the European results).  I didn't try 50" or larger, but suspect it to be no different.

The files can be read directly by the TV's Smart media browser (auto pops up when you insert the flash drive). You don't need 3D glasses as the stereoscopic MPO (in this case) consists of two identical frames, and you can switch between the two 2D and 3D files comparing them using the left and right cursor keys on the TV remote.

So it is clear that the 46D6600 3D ability is limited to half the vertical resolution, the small text and fine lines in the test pattern shows the difference most clearly when you switch between the 2D and 3D files. On the 46D7000 the 3D has full detail and is only slightly darker.

Out of interest, I also tried it on a LG LW6500 and it looked about the same as the Samsung D6600 - i.e. half res. But then LG are completely honest about the capabilities of their passive 3D system. A Sony EX720 wouldn't display either the 2D JPG or the 3D MPO files, and a Panasonic GT30 Plasma showed a badly shimmering (interlaced) 3D image - not sure why? (3D glasses made no difference).

Anyway, hope this proves helpful to any 3D fans out there. This test is quite a useful method for determining the 3D rendering clarity of any TV really.

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  Reply # 583296 18-Feb-2012 21:04 Send private message

I was allowed to test Panasonic and Samsung plasmas today - both of which passed with flying colours (altering file type was the key for Panasonic's).
The Samsung series 7 LED's were fine, but as others have said, the series 6 failed the test.
After reading the Hz ratings offered by Samsung for 2011, I'm not surprised they've muddied the water re: 3D capabilities. I know the 2012 3D TV's will be under severe scrutiny now!

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