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  Reply # 692584 28-Sep-2012 03:46 Send private message

Granted, I was half asleep, but after ordering direct from apple i have no idea which specific model I'll be getting. I didn't see any options other than colour and gigs. It did say GSM though.

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  Reply # 693112 28-Sep-2012 19:27 Send private message

OK, so I am rural NZ so at the moment I can only use telecom mobile network as the others don't have coverage in our area. However I want a phone I can use world wide as I am travelling extensively next year. I was told to buy my iphone 5 online from the apple store and that way I get a phone that is unlocked "worldwide". But it seems that I can only get the GSM phone and telecom isn't GSM yet?? Am I right or am I missing something? HELP I want to order my new iphone now, but don't want to make a mistake 

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  Reply # 693133 28-Sep-2012 20:00 Send private message

csa: OK, so I am rural NZ so at the moment I can only use telecom mobile network as the others don't have coverage in our area. However I want a phone I can use world wide as I am travelling extensively next year. I was told to buy my iphone 5 online from the apple store and that way I get a phone that is unlocked "worldwide". But it seems that I can only get the GSM phone and telecom isn't GSM yet?? Am I right or am I missing something? HELP I want to order my new iphone now, but don't want to make a mistake?


Nope you are not right! Approx where do you live?

Telecom will never have a GSM network they run 100% 3G WCDMA 850Mhz network

Order a iPhone online or from Telecom and you will be fine




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  Reply # 693146 28-Sep-2012 20:31 Send private message

csa: But it seems that I can only get the GSM phone and telecom isn't GSM yet??

Apple advertises it as a GSM model but it also supports WCDMA used by Telecom. All iPhones with the exception of the original 2007 model will work with Telecom.

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  Reply # 693194 28-Sep-2012 22:23 Send private message

Thanks guys, I understand what you are saying - it will work for 3g no problem, but it's the 4g LTE where the difference becomes critical from what I have read.

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  Reply # 693195 28-Sep-2012 22:27 Send private message

JohnR I live in Rahotu Taranaki

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  Reply # 694584 2-Oct-2012 01:08 Send private message

From what I've read so far about the LTE trials in NZ:
Telecom - would use 1800MHz and 2600MHz spectrum in the trial.
Vodafone - will shortly announced its own 4G trial, utilizing 1800MHz spectrum.

And all companies will be bidding for the 700hz spectrum - end of the digital switch over period
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/telecom-trial-4g-ck-118713

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  Reply # 694595 2-Oct-2012 06:10 Send private message

csa: JohnR I live in Rahotu Taranaki


Simply reality is there isn't an iPhone (or any LTE device for that matter) that's going to work with LTE for you, as ultimately you would probably end up in a 700MHz LTE coverage area regardless of the network.


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  Reply # 694597 2-Oct-2012 06:42 Send private message

ok havent had my coffee but this is interesting - it used to be which network can i get 3G on which band and where ... now swap 3g with LTE

are you saying in town LTE bandwidth is (would be) 1800 and in rural it is 700MHz?

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  Reply # 694608 2-Oct-2012 08:23 Send private message

joker97: ok havent had my coffee but this is interesting - it used to be which network can i get 3G on which band and where ... now swap 3g with LTE

are you saying in town LTE bandwidth is (would be) 1800 and in rural it is 700MHz?


There isn't a single APAC 700MHz LTE network live anywhere in the world, or any available devices that yet support this band.

It would be safe to assume that much like carriers using 2100Mhz in urban areas as additional capacity for WCDMA networks that once 700MHz spectrum is available and networks are built that the same scenario will occur.

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  Reply # 695079 2-Oct-2012 19:21 Send private message

Agreed.
Anything 700MHz will not happy till end of 2014.
we're better off assuming 1800 and 2600 will be in trial for possible lte scenarios

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  Reply # 695100 2-Oct-2012 19:42 Send private message

Question - what is the actual 3G frequency currently being used by 2degrees, voda and telecom?

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  Reply # 695128 2-Oct-2012 20:41 Send private message

Steve113: Question - what is the actual 3G frequency currently being used by 2degrees, voda and telecom?

2deg 900 2100
voda 900 2100
telecom 850 2100

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  Reply # 695169 2-Oct-2012 21:32 Send private message

Steve113: Agreed.
Anything 700MHz will not happy till end of 2014.
we're better off assuming 1800 and 2600 will be in trial for possible lte scenarios


It's pretty clear that 1800 is going to be one of the primary LTE global frequencies - everywhere except for North America where they don't use that band.

With existing GSM licences in that band it makes a lot of sense, and with single RAN solutions now making combining multiple technologies a lot easier it really is the logical step forward.

The only issue of course of one of $ - everybody wants to pay peanuts for services all while a network has to find hundreds of millions every few years to totally rebuild things.
 

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  Reply # 695862 3-Oct-2012 22:12 Send private message

Steve113: Question - what is the actual 3G frequency currently being used by 2degrees, voda and telecom?


As other threads say, XT uses 850mhz/2100mhz(infill only. Your phone has to do 850mhz). 2ds does 900mhz 2G and 2100mhz 3g and roaming on vodafone towers.
Vodafone does 900/2100mhz 3g.


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