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Topic # 110416 9-Oct-2012 09:00 Send private message

I am tempted to make the move from VF to Telecom (the 500Gb package caught my attention)

I currently pay for Sky via VF and get a discount for that etc. I can't seem to find anything definitive on the Telecom website about paying for Sky through Telecom, and the potential discounts available.

Anyone care to shed some light.

Cheers




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  Reply # 698266 9-Oct-2012 09:07 Send private message

Sky used to be affiliated with Telecom - I am still on a Sky + Telecom deal from 6 years ago. But they moved to be aligned with VF a few years back I believe - so I doubt you will find any deals with Telecom.




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  Reply # 698272 9-Oct-2012 09:41 Send private message

I was on the Sky/Telecom deal for years and when I moved to Orcon UFB, Sky said my basic charge would be the same as it previously was with Telecom. In other words, the discount had been whittled to nothing.

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  Reply # 698273 9-Oct-2012 09:45 Send private message

Good to know!




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Reply # 698281 9-Oct-2012 09:51 Send private message

We have sky basic on our Telecom bill, the price we pay $46.12 on our Telecom bill is identical to the price you pay directly thru Sky.



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  Reply # 698282 9-Oct-2012 09:51 Send private message

linw: I was on the Sky/Telecom deal for years and when I moved to Orcon UFB, Sky said my basic charge would be the same as it previously was with Telecom. In other words, the discount had been whittled to nothing.


What he said.

My advice is to get the average usage of your bb and phone line for the last 6mo and look at the actual dollar cost of a similar plan with the proposed provider. Do not get confused by terms like 'savings' and 'discounts', ask to see the actual dollar amount and make up your mind based on that. That is, compare apples with apples.

Also, as a mate found out when terminating a Sky account (he moved to a flat with Sky already), they have flexible and negotiable deals if you speak to the right person and stand your ground.

Good luck and let use know what you end up with.

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  Reply # 698284 9-Oct-2012 09:53 Send private message

they did sign something with Sky last year (and so did slingshot at the same time), but nothing has been announced (and the same with slingshot).

So I suspect it has died for whatever reason.

If you want to switch then you will just need to pay for Sky separately like most people :p

or just get rid of Sky altogehter and use freeview combined with other streaming services


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  Reply # 698293 9-Oct-2012 10:12 Send private message

NonprayingMantis: they did sign something with Sky last year (and so did slingshot at the same time), but nothing has been announced (and the same with slingshot).

So I suspect it has died for whatever reason.

If you want to switch then you will just need to pay for Sky separately like most people :p

or just get rid of Sky altogehter and use freeview combined with other streaming services



Some ISPs offer unmetered iSky which is good if you watch iSky. I would suggest you login to iSky if you have this facility and try it out for a few weeks before you base a decision around that, I don't use iSky at all because it does not suit my viewing habits.

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  Reply # 698320 9-Oct-2012 11:48 Send private message

gundar:
NonprayingMantis: they did sign something with Sky last year (and so did slingshot at the same time), but nothing has been announced (and the same with slingshot).

So I suspect it has died for whatever reason.

If you want to switch then you will just need to pay for Sky separately like most people :p

or just get rid of Sky altogehter and use freeview combined with other streaming services



Some ISPs offer unmetered iSky which is good if you watch iSky. I would suggest you login to iSky if you have this facility and try it out for a few weeks before you base a decision around that, I don't use iSky at all because it does not suit my viewing habits.


do you think unmetering iSky (which is only SD) or not is going to make a material difference if he is looking at a 500GB plan?

I don't.

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  Reply # 698329 9-Oct-2012 12:00 Send private message

NonprayingMantis:
gundar:
NonprayingMantis: they did sign something with Sky last year (and so did slingshot at the same time), but nothing has been announced (and the same with slingshot).

So I suspect it has died for whatever reason.

If you want to switch then you will just need to pay for Sky separately like most people :p

or just get rid of Sky altogehter and use freeview combined with other streaming services



Some ISPs offer unmetered iSky which is good if you watch iSky. I would suggest you login to iSky if you have this facility and try it out for a few weeks before you base a decision around that, I don't use iSky at all because it does not suit my viewing habits.


do you think unmetering iSky (which is only SD) or not is going to make a material difference if he is looking at a 500GB plan?

I don't.


I have no idea what the viewing hapbits are, I added information that was, in context, relevant.

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  Reply # 698333 9-Oct-2012 12:10 Send private message

gundar:
NonprayingMantis:
gundar:
NonprayingMantis: they did sign something with Sky last year (and so did slingshot at the same time), but nothing has been announced (and the same with slingshot).

So I suspect it has died for whatever reason.

If you want to switch then you will just need to pay for Sky separately like most people :p

or just get rid of Sky altogehter and use freeview combined with other streaming services



Some ISPs offer unmetered iSky which is good if you watch iSky. I would suggest you login to iSky if you have this facility and try it out for a few weeks before you base a decision around that, I don't use iSky at all because it does not suit my viewing habits.


do you think unmetering iSky (which is only SD) or not is going to make a material difference if he is looking at a 500GB plan?

I don't.


I have no idea what the viewing hapbits are, I added information that was, in context, relevant.


My point was more that having a cap the size of that means that virtually any sort of unmetering of iSky (or most video streaming services for that matter)  is almost entirely irrelevant.

You would have to be watching vast (and I mean really really vast) quantities of iSky to make any sort of dent into a 500GB broadband plan.

Even if we generously assume iSky uses a bitrate of 2Mbps (and I think it is more like 1.5Mbps), that still equates to less than 1GB per hour of viewing, so even using up only half of his cap on iSky (leaving a whopping 250GB for other stuff) still requires 250 hours of viewing of isky in a month, or about 8 hours per day, every single day of the month just on iSky.
If he wants to get close to his 500GB cap, then he would need to be watching 16 hours every single day, or in other words, start streaming the moment he wakes up and don't stop until he goes to bed every single day,

People who get close to 500GB don't get close from watching streaming video.  they get close from large amounts of torrenting or large amounts of databackups or similar.  video streaming is not going to be any more than a dent in a 500GB cap, in the same way as unmetering trademe or online banking is basically pointless on a 40GB cap.



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  Reply # 698337 9-Oct-2012 12:16 Send private message

Cheers for the replies guys. I had been toying with the idea of removing sky all together.
Whats puts me off moving etc is the hassle of it all, never a straight forward task.

The iSky stuff does work quite well and I have called upon it in the past.




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  Reply # 698347 9-Oct-2012 12:49 Send private message

You can, of course, keep sky even if you leave Vodafone. You will just need to start paying for the mysky again which is $15 per month.

Depending on your usage and plan that you want that may, or may not, be better than staying with VF and keeping the discount. i.e. if the plan you want is $15 more expensive (or not available) on VF, then switching would be best.


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  Reply # 698452 9-Oct-2012 14:50 Send private message

linw: I was on the Sky/Telecom deal for years and when I moved to Orcon UFB, Sky said my basic charge would be the same as it previously was with Telecom. In other words, the discount had been whittled to nothing.


I just checked my latest Telecom bill and it stated that my Sky Startup Package was $42.62. On the Sky website however it states the basic startup package is $46.12. 

A whopping $3.50 a month saving - not much but still better than nothing I guess...




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