Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.

View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 


29 posts

Geek


  Reply # 756091 5-Feb-2013 14:08 Send private message

Thanks runningman thats just the info i was looking for clear and consice.i will probably use the existing wire for the modem.
does it matter which way the pairs get connected i.e blue and white to red and white. is it blue to red and white to white?

19230 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1103

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 756094 5-Feb-2013 14:17 Send private message

I'm actually in the process of writing a blog post explaining why a master filter is mandatory for xDSL performance, hopefully I'll find some time tomorrow to do some more work on this as I started writing it a year ago!

While this is getting slightly OT, I was originally going to incorporate a section that gave a brief rundown on how to hook up a master filter, but canned this as I believe it will cause more harm than good with people attempting to fix faults with absolutely no idea of what they're doing. The reality is phone wiring isn't rocket science if you understand what you're doing, but even I run across cabling that defies belief sometimes and takes a lot of time to understand!




5914 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 85

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 756097 5-Feb-2013 14:24 Send private message

Hi Stone, assuming you put the filter in the ETP then you need to connect the modem port (Green) to another pair in the white cable, ie Bk/Or or Gr/Bl. the voice port of the filter to the existing Wh/Red pair to continue feeding all the existing sockets. You then need to build a modem pair (either from an existing pair in the existing cable or run a new cable) from the ETP to the desired modem location and install a new socket for the modem.

Cyril



29 posts

Geek


  Reply # 756098 5-Feb-2013 14:36 Send private message

roger that
thanks very much



29 posts

Geek


  Reply # 756466 6-Feb-2013 10:12 Send private message

Hi all just an update if anyone's still interested.
Telecom have finally turned interleaving off and my speeds and ping are back to where they were before all this trouble.

I haven't installed the master filter yet or bought a new modem.

Hey plambrechtsen would you be kind enough to run another line test just to see if or what any difference's are. I'd be really interested to know. Thanks Smile



29 posts

Geek


  Reply # 756490 6-Feb-2013 11:32 Send private message

Compared to this a couple days ago
http://speedtest.net/result/2482063008.png

19230 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1103

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 756498 6-Feb-2013 11:49 Send private message

Good to see the issue has been narrowed down to the modem. There would certainly be a lot of people out there with older modems that have major compatability issues with the ISAM linecards so end users aren't receiving the speed they should be.

5914 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 85

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 756503 6-Feb-2013 12:14 Send private message

Hi Steve, I would not put it for certain on the modem, although those older Dlinks I would not be surprised if its part of the problem also.

Recntly I asked for interleaving to be turned off my sync fell from 18Mb/s to 7Mb/s, but the latency dropped as expected. I had several calls to Telecom and they all said it was my modem (TP-Link 8840 broadcom chipset) or my line (600m 7dB att), but I persisted. Eventually I got on to a CSR who was higher up the chain, he immediately noted that for whatever reason when interleave was turned off the system automatically engaged a very conservative profile, he put it back to the normal higher profile and I get my 18Mb/s and low latency, he also said he would not have expected 1st tier CSR's to have either understood or known to check the profile.

Cyril



29 posts

Geek


  Reply # 756549 6-Feb-2013 13:53 Send private message

well no guys it cant be the modem because im still using my old one 504t.
although i suspect a new modem would give me even better speeds but i dont think it would be hugely better so am going to stay with my dinosaur for now.
im waiting to hear from plamnrechtsen about another line test to see if the only difference is interleaving being switched off.

19230 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1103

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 756551 6-Feb-2013 13:58 Send private message

stone2: well no guys it cant be the modem because im still using my old one 504t.
although i suspect a new modem would give me even better speeds but i dont think it would be hugely better so am going to stay with my dinosaur for now.
im waiting to hear from plamnrechtsen about another line test to see if the only difference is interleaving being switched off.


But in this case it seems pretty a clear cut case the issue is the modem - as the table on the earlier page shows they have issues with interleaving which is exactly what you are seeing. There are plenty of compatability issues with older d-link modems and the newer Ikanos linecards.

The harsh but real world reality is that the whole d-link 504 range are exceptionally terrible modems.






19230 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1103

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 756553 6-Feb-2013 14:01 Send private message

cyril7: Hi Steve, I would not put it for certain on the modem, although those older Dlinks I would not be surprised if its part of the problem also.

Recntly I asked for interleaving to be turned off my sync fell from 18Mb/s to 7Mb/s, but the latency dropped as expected. I had several calls to Telecom and they all said it was my modem (TP-Link 8840 broadcom chipset) or my line (600m 7dB att), but I persisted. Eventually I got on to a CSR who was higher up the chain, he immediately noted that for whatever reason when interleave was turned off the system automatically engaged a very conservative profile, he put it back to the normal higher profile and I get my 18Mb/s and low latency, he also said he would not have expected 1st tier CSR's to have either understood or known to check the profile.

Cyril


I've heard of a few similar issues, but in this case the results are identical to that of a known firmware issue with these modems, right down to the identical sync rate that occurs when the fault arises.





29 posts

Geek


  Reply # 756586 6-Feb-2013 15:13 Send private message

ahh...yes i understand now.if there was no problem with the modem then i wouldn't see such slow speeds with interleaving on. is that right?

19230 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1103

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 756587 6-Feb-2013 15:18 Send private message

stone2: ahh...yes i understand now.if there was no problem with the modem then i wouldn't see such slow speeds with interleaving on. is that right?


Exactly. The problem you're describing is exactly what is documented on the first page by Telecom.

Most of the earlier 504's don't even work at all on the new Ikanos linecards, there are plenty of threads on here discussing the issues with these modems.






29 posts

Geek


  Reply # 757521 8-Feb-2013 20:40 Send private message

Hello again.
Just thought some of you might be interested in a followup. I have installed a master filter and my speeds have increased by about 3Mbps so was well worth the effort. I wonder how much faster still I might get with a modern modem as I do plan on getting a new one but just not yet.
Anyway here are my new speeds


This is more the average tho as the other one was a fluke I reckon but I couldn't resist posting it as it's the best I've ever had Cool



2528 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 317


  Reply # 757523 8-Feb-2013 20:41 Send private message

Excellent - good to hear.

1 | 2 | 3 
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic




Twitter »
Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:




News »

Trending now »
Hot discussions in our forums right now:

Hierarchy of a mistake: Gerry Brownlee
Created by joker97, last reply by joker97 on 25-Jul-2014 14:46 (54 replies)
Pages... 2 3 4


MH 17 "shot down" all dead
Created by joker97, last reply by ScuL on 24-Jul-2014 21:40 (203 replies)
Pages... 12 13 14


Geekzone giveaway: Thecus N2310 NAS
Created by freitasm, last reply by han214 on 25-Jul-2014 14:54 (82 replies)
Pages... 4 5 6


Is chorus going to deliberately slow adsl internet down
Created by rugrat, last reply by SaltyNZ on 25-Jul-2014 15:31 (47 replies)
Pages... 2 3 4


Huge Fuss, didn't even make it a year.
Created by networkn, last reply by Glassboy on 22-Jul-2014 19:50 (121 replies)
Pages... 7 8 9


Sickening floral smell in car, What next?
Created by TimA, last reply by mrphil on 25-Jul-2014 14:27 (39 replies)
Pages... 2 3


Skinny's new aggressive ad campaign
Created by Yabanize, last reply by Yabanize on 22-Jul-2014 23:35 (52 replies)
Pages... 2 3 4


Giving notice
Created by IlDuce, last reply by kharris on 24-Jul-2014 17:36 (15 replies)


Geekzone Live »
Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.