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  Reply # 969413 18-Jan-2014 17:13 Send private message

k1wi: I got the text too. To be honest my reaction was more 'hah' than anything. Nothing that is going to cause me to threaten to change my provider with a hiss and a roar though. If it did actually affect me then I'd happily shift, because consumers should be making decisions based on the best deal for them.

That said, I don't understand their need to increase this fee by 300%, given they do have top up packages etc... The reason I don't understand why they would do so is because the perception of it that many people will probably (quite rightly) have is that they're trying to take advantage of people who accidentally go a little over their data-cap. I would have thought that perception would offset any fiscal gain from it...


Only they would know the numbers and calculations, and what the increased changes will net them, but it must be worth it for them. I suspect the bean counters have been let out over there, to maximize revenues across all services. It is a good thing too for shareholders, as they have been suffering since the unbundling. That said, when power companies 'change' their pricing, (and 99% of the time they are increases), they will display a table with the old and new pricing so it is easier to see the differences.

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  Reply # 969430 18-Jan-2014 17:55 Send private message

I just switched my broadband from telecom to another provider. Looks like I'll be switching mobile too. Will visit 2 deg tomorrow on what they can offer

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Chrizvi: I just switched my broadband from telecom to another provider. Looks like I'll be switching mobile too. Will visit 2 deg tomorrow on what they can offer

data overage on 2D is 50c/MB.  That's still 66% higher than Telecom


Oh, and 2d don't give you 30GB of free wifi very month either, nor do they have 4G yet. So if you like data they may not be the best option.

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  Reply # 969435 18-Jan-2014 18:02 Send private message

Lol

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  Reply # 969437 18-Jan-2014 18:55 One person supports this post Send private message

NonprayingMantis:
Chrizvi: I just switched my broadband from telecom to another provider. Looks like I'll be switching mobile too. Will visit 2 deg tomorrow on what they can offer

data overage on 2D is 50c/MB.  That's still 66% higher than Telecom


Oh, and 2d don't give you 30GB of free wifi very month either, nor do they have 4G yet. So if you like data they may not be the best option.


Do many people actually use the free wifi, I've never used it myself.

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  Reply # 969440 18-Jan-2014 19:08 Send private message

NonprayingMantis:
Chrizvi: I just switched my broadband from telecom to another provider. Looks like I'll be switching mobile too. Will visit 2 deg tomorrow on what they can offer

data overage on 2D is 50c/MB.  That's still 66% higher than Telecom


Oh, and 2d don't give you 30GB of free wifi very month either, nor do they have 4G yet. So if you like data they may not be the best option.


If on a 1 gig or 3 gig data pack and go over on 2degrees looks like it's 20c/MB

Depends if free wifi is in handy spot or not to be of use, they don't have much range from the phone box.

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  Reply # 969544 19-Jan-2014 08:22 Send private message

mattwnz:
NonprayingMantis:
Chrizvi: I just switched my broadband from telecom to another provider. Looks like I'll be switching mobile too. Will visit 2 deg tomorrow on what they can offer

data overage on 2D is 50c/MB.  That's still 66% higher than Telecom


Oh, and 2d don't give you 30GB of free wifi very month either, nor do they have 4G yet. So if you like data they may not be the best option.


Do many people actually use the free wifi, I've never used it myself.


I'm registered on to it but don't use it as  I have a work SIM   and at home and work I use WiFi  anyway but when the day comes and I have my own account then I may very well use it..




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  Reply # 969566 19-Jan-2014 10:07 Send private message

As a side note, how many people actually consume excess data? I regularly use more than 1gb/mth so i buy an additional 1gb data block each month so i don't have to worry about overage, surely people are on appropriate plans to get through the month with a blowout or monitor their usage and buy appropriate add-ons as required?

Even at 20c/mb it doesn't take much before you have clocked up as much as a small data pack costs


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  Reply # 969665 19-Jan-2014 15:49 Send private message

mattwnz:
NonprayingMantis:
Chrizvi: I just switched my broadband from telecom to another provider. Looks like I'll be switching mobile too. Will visit 2 deg tomorrow on what they can offer

data overage on 2D is 50c/MB.  That's still 66% higher than Telecom


Oh, and 2d don't give you 30GB of free wifi very month either, nor do they have 4G yet. So if you like data they may not be the best option.


Do many people actually use the free wifi, I've never used it myself.


I use it to sync new music down on rdio when I am out and want something else. Otherwise dont really trust it and my attempts at getting a VPN going over it to home were not sucessful so I dont want to actually go using it.

The problem with android is you have no idea how secure the background stuff that is constantly running is, so it may be disclosing credentials or not checking certs over the wifi without me actually opening it.

I am on all prepay with telecom and only top up $20 when I want to buy another 500 megs and the mins/sms that I never use anywhere near all of them, so overage isnt really a concern for me since it will just blow thru the $1 or 2 remaning on the ballance in no time and then stop working till I top-up and buy another addon.

The other annoying thing is that buying and cancelling the addon as I do each time seems to reset the credientails for the free wifi so I have to go thru the SMS code hassle every time.




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  Reply # 969697 19-Jan-2014 16:56 Send private message

Wade: As a side note, how many people actually consume excess data? I regularly use more than 1gb/mth so i buy an additional 1gb data block each month so i don't have to worry about overage, surely people are on appropriate plans to get through the month with a blowout or monitor their usage and buy appropriate add-ons as required?

Even at 20c/mb it doesn't take much before you have clocked up as much as a small data pack costs



Given you can buy 30MB for $3, the amount of people this will actually effect is pretty small.

For starters, it only affects you if you go over your plan allowance, but even when it was 20c/MB you were better of buying the 30MB pack if you used more than 15MB of extra data. Now it's 30c/MB you are better of buying that pack if you use more than 10MB of data.


Here is what extra data costs you under old and new scenario, with the differences
0MB. 0c. 0c. Dif 0c
1MB. 20c. 30c. Dif 10c
2MB. 40c. 60f. Dif 20c
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9MB. $1.80. $2.70. Dif 90c
10MB. $2. $3. Dif $1 (this is the max)
11MB. $2.20. $3 (because you buy the $3 extra). Dif 80c
12MB. $2.40. $3. (Because you buy the $3 extra) Dif 60c
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15MB. $3. $3. Dif 0c


So, with the above maths in mind, this change affects people who use between 1 and 15MB over their cap, with the worst case being if they use 10MB over their cap. Everybody who uses less than their cap is unaffected, everybody who uses more than 15MB is, and always was, better of buying the $3 extra anyway, so no change for them either.

So for that worst case person who uses 10MB over their cap, The difference in spend now for that is exactly $1, and that is the absolute worst case for anybody who sensibly manages their data and happens to use exactly 10MB over his cap.

That seems like an awfully small sum to be getting your knickers in a twist about.

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  Reply # 969698 19-Jan-2014 16:57 Send private message

Assuming they want to micromanage their connection by purchasing addon data packs only if and when needed. Its a small shift in the wrong direction for additional data costs.




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  Reply # 969702 19-Jan-2014 17:05 Send private message

richms: Assuming they want to micromanage their connection by purchasing addon data packs only if and when needed. Its a small shift in the wrong direction for additional data costs.


IMO there is something wrong in the current environment, if prices for this sort of thing are rising, unless it is a service that is on the way out and has less customers using it. But the way I see it, data usage is only increasing.



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  Reply # 969789 20-Jan-2014 00:54 Send private message

mattwnz:
NonprayingMantis:
Chrizvi: I just switched my broadband from telecom to another provider. Looks like I'll be switching mobile too. Will visit 2 deg tomorrow on what they can offer

data overage on 2D is 50c/MB.  That's still 66% higher than Telecom


Oh, and 2d don't give you 30GB of free wifi very month either, nor do they have 4G yet. So if you like data they may not be the best option.


Do many people actually use the free wifi, I've never used it myself.


I use it. Usually without realising it. I'll be somewhere and notice I'm on wifi instead of 4G....and if I look around there will be a pink phone box not far away. It works really well as long as you're not moving rapidly.....in which case you're no sooner on it than you've lost the signal.




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  Reply # 969790 20-Jan-2014 00:58 Send private message

Wade: As a side note, how many people actually consume excess data? I regularly use more than 1gb/mth so i buy an additional 1gb data block each month so i don't have to worry about overage, surely people are on appropriate plans to get through the month with a blowout or monitor their usage and buy appropriate add-ons as required?

Even at 20c/mb it doesn't take much before you have clocked up as much as a small data pack costs



What caught my attention was that casual overage rate being 15 times (or more) the add-on data pack rate. 

That seems outrageously punitive. How can you justify charging 1500% more for the same thing? 

It would be like a $4 bus fare on an AT HOP card being $60 if you rock up with cash.




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  Reply # 969831 20-Jan-2014 08:42 One person supports this post Send private message

Linuxluver:
Wade: As a side note, how many people actually consume excess data? I regularly use more than 1gb/mth so i buy an additional 1gb data block each month so i don't have to worry about overage, surely people are on appropriate plans to get through the month with a blowout or monitor their usage and buy appropriate add-ons as required?

Even at 20c/mb it doesn't take much before you have clocked up as much as a small data pack costs



What caught my attention was that casual overage rate being 15 times (or more) the add-on data pack rate. 

That seems outrageously punitive. How can you justify charging 1500% more for the same thing? 

It would be like a $4 bus fare on an AT HOP card being $60 if you rock up with cash.


Or a Passport going from 10 year to 5 years and staying the same price.  A 100% price increase..




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