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  Reply # 975791 28-Jan-2014 12:46 Send private message

"4G" in the US is HSDPA (!)

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  Reply # 976305 28-Jan-2014 22:36 Send private message

if they were to double the caps, this would in theory half the bandwidth available to the end user right?

I dont think that would be so bad considering 4g is currently faster than most people home connections

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  Reply # 976308 28-Jan-2014 22:38 Send private message

bakewells5856: if they were to double the caps, this would in theory half the bandwidth available to the end user right?


No. Bandwidth is not based on theoretical max use but actual instant usage, power and number of connected devices.






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bakewells5856: if they were to double the caps, this would in theory half the bandwidth available to the end user right?

I dont think that would be so bad considering 4g is currently faster than most people home connections


Scenario.  You/we/us do stuff on our mobiles. Interweb pages, youtube to show mates, email, etc, etc, etc.

If you got 4G/LTE tomorrow would you change what you do? If not your usage remains largely the same

If your data cap doubled, and cost more, would you/we double what you do? 

With 4G, what you do, is quicker and thats pretty efficient. 

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  Reply # 976327 28-Jan-2014 22:57 Send private message

tdgeek:
bakewells5856: if they were to double the caps, this would in theory half the bandwidth available to the end user right?

I dont think that would be so bad considering 4g is currently faster than most people home connections


Scenario.  You/we/us do stuff on our mobiles. Interweb pages, youtube to show mates, email, etc, etc, etc.

If you got 4G/LTE tomorrow would you change what you do? If not your usage remains largely the same

If your data cap doubled, and cost more, would you/we double what you do? 

With 4G, what you do, is quicker and thats pretty efficient. 


what im getting at is there is room to have higher caps.
maybe not jump up to double, but with what it is currently it just seems like wasted potential

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  Reply # 976328 28-Jan-2014 22:59 One person supports this post Send private message

nathan: "4G" in the US is HSDPA (!)

Well on some networks in some areas, yes, and its pathetic.

But if you were to use verizons comprensive yet restrictive and expensive network, they have a lot of 4G coverage, covering pretty much every major centre.
Doesn't necessarily mean its a good solution offered or fast, as i can't comment there without research, but they definitely have a lot of 4G.

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  Reply # 976350 29-Jan-2014 00:01 Send private message

ghettomaster: How do they get on overseas with unlimited mobile data such as in the US? Or is it just horribly slow?


Some Malaysia telco used to offer 'unlimited' mobile data. I spoke to some people over there and they used it to torrent continuously. 5GB a day is easy. Things started to change last year or so and everything is now Limited.






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  Reply # 976399 29-Jan-2014 07:35 One person supports this post Send private message

eXDee:
nathan: "4G" in the US is HSDPA (!)

Well on some networks in some areas, yes, and its pathetic.

But if you were to use verizons comprensive yet restrictive and expensive network, they have a lot of 4G coverage, covering pretty much every major centre.


And that's a reason why Verizon's bills are higher than others. You want better service/coverage you have to pay more.

People who claim "but in the [country name] they have unlimited" seem to forget to add it either lacks speed, coverage or low price. Choose two of those.








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  Reply # 976449 29-Jan-2014 09:16 Send private message

bakewells5856: 
If your data cap doubled, and cost more, would you/we double what you do? 

 


Very much so - and more again if I got a cap 10x what I have now.

Pandora for one is an app I would love to use on the go and not worry about and as mentioned I would spend more time on youtube rather than surfing web pages as I currently do knowing I can use it for longer using less data.



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  Reply # 976451 29-Jan-2014 09:17 Send private message

Oh - if it cost more? Maybe. Maybe not - I guess it depends on how much more. There's always that balance to be struck between what you need / want and what you're willing to pay.

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  Reply # 976603 29-Jan-2014 12:34 Send private message

tdgeek:
bakewells5856: if they were to double the caps, this would in theory half the bandwidth available to the end user right?

I dont think that would be so bad considering 4g is currently faster than most people home connections


Scenario.  You/we/us do stuff on our mobiles. Interweb pages, youtube to show mates, email, etc, etc, etc.

If you got 4G/LTE tomorrow would you change what you do? If not your usage remains largely the same

If your data cap doubled, and cost more, would you/we double what you do? 

With 4G, what you do, is quicker and thats pretty efficient. 


People do change what they do, although there a lag factor between enablement and discovery of new ways of doing things.

The data cap constrains the new way of doing things, in effect it increases the lag factor before new products and services emerge.  One of the new enablers in 4G is the concept of business to mobile commerce or more specifically mobile to mobile commerce.




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  Reply # 976604 29-Jan-2014 12:36 Send private message

TwoSeven:
tdgeek:
bakewells5856: if they were to double the caps, this would in theory half the bandwidth available to the end user right?

I dont think that would be so bad considering 4g is currently faster than most people home connections


Scenario.  You/we/us do stuff on our mobiles. Interweb pages, youtube to show mates, email, etc, etc, etc.

If you got 4G/LTE tomorrow would you change what you do? If not your usage remains largely the same

If your data cap doubled, and cost more, would you/we double what you do? 

With 4G, what you do, is quicker and thats pretty efficient. 


People do change what they do, although there a lag factor between enablement and discovery of new ways of doing things.

The data cap constrains the new way of doing things, in effect it increases the lag factor before new products and services emerge.  One of the new enablers in 4G is the concept of business to mobile commerce or more specifically mobile to mobile commerce.


There is no limit (in theory) to what you can download as an individual on 4G, you just have to pay, like you would if you drove further (faster) or consume anything. 

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  Reply # 976706 29-Jan-2014 14:23 Send private message

I got a new offer the other day to double my data for $3...





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  Reply # 978146 31-Jan-2014 15:02 Send private message

http://moscow.megafon.ru/internet/router/#month (Use website translater if needed)
http://khb.megafon.ru/internet/dlya_kompyutera/ 

Global Russia Mobile provider (megafon) offers 40Gb for 45-55 $NZD (depends on part of the country)
And there are unlimited packages for 42 $NZD but speed is limited to 2Mbps or something. 

1) GPRS/3G/4G
2) Minimum speeds is 4-6 Mbps, according to speedtest of users.
3) No capacity issues
4) Lots of users prefer to buy mobile broadband if they don't spend lots of data.
5) Good solution for RURAL users.

How this could happen?, company with definitely low prices, can provide this type of plans? Also some smaller cellular companies can give you up to 120 Gb of mobile data.

My comment: NZ data is most expensive in the world i think, and 4G with 3Gb of tiny data, you must be joking... :)

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  Reply # 978157 31-Jan-2014 15:06 One person supports this post Send private message

Kirdog: http://moscow.megafon.ru/internet/router/#month (Use website translater if needed)

Global Russia Mobile provider (megafon) offers 40Gb for 46 $NZD

1) GPRS/3G/4G
2) Minimum speeds is 4-6 Mbps, according to speedtest of users.
3) No capacity issues
4) Lots of users prefer to buy mobile broadband if they don't spend lots of data.
5) Good solution for RURAL users.

How this could happen?, company with definitely low prices, can provide this type of plans? Also some smaller cellular companies can give you up to 120 Gb of mobile data.

My comment: NZ data is most expensive in the world i think, and 4G with 3Gb of tiny data, you must be joking... :)


ugh, again with this nonsense. Any idea how many people in Russia? Ever heard of Economies of scale? Most expensive country in the world? Been to smaller places like Fiji ?

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