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  Reply # 217160 23-May-2009 11:24 Send private message

reignofgold:
NealR: Can I just clarify that the emergency services have instructed us to NOT allow people to make calls from phones that are not connected to our network. Their interpretation of connected in this case was a valid SIM card either prepaid or post paid with a number assigned to it.


I'm sorry, can someone tell me if there's any logic behind this reasoning? It sounds really stupid to me....


Probably those services decided that the risk of someone being actually in an emergency with a handset and no SIM card is less than the risk of some pranksters removing the SIM card just to keep calling 111 without being identified...







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  Reply # 217167 23-May-2009 11:33 Send private message

reignofgold:
NealR: Can I just clarify that the emergency services have instructed us to NOT allow people to make calls from phones that are not connected to our network. Their interpretation of connected in this case was a valid SIM card either prepaid or post paid with a number assigned to it.


I'm sorry, can someone tell me if there's any logic behind this reasoning? It sounds really stupid to me....


I have just got confirmation this is the same on Vodafone New Zealand.





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  Reply # 217454 24-May-2009 17:38 Send private message

Great idea to have a FAQ :)

Can somebody please clarify the 850mhz operating frequency requirement.

Am looking at purchasing a Nokia N85 from the states, it is one of the phones that will be available on the XT network. Have looked at the specs on gsmarena and they are as follows:

2G Network  850/900/1800/1900
3G Network  HSDPA 900/1900/2100
American version  HDSPA 850/1900/2100

No mention of WCDMA, was wondering whether HSDPA is the equivalent of WCDMA?

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  Reply # 217455 24-May-2009 17:42 Send private message

Yes. You just need to make sure you get the 850 model and that it's unlocked.


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  Reply # 217457 24-May-2009 17:48 Send private message

Cheers for that :)

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  Reply # 217516 24-May-2009 20:56 Send private message

Can you just confirm the Sony Ericcson W705a is in fact 850MHz as I have searched the net and its only listed as 900/2100MHz so does this mean it wont actually work in most XT areas and only in the "backfilled" 2100 parts?


This is one of the phones they are heavily marketing



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  Reply # 217518 24-May-2009 21:02 Send private message

camtab: Can you just confirm the Sony Ericcson W705a is in fact 850MHz as I have searched the net and its only listed as 900/2100MHz so does this mean it wont actually work in most XT areas and only in the "backfilled" 2100 parts?

This is one of the phones they are heavily marketing


I don't know about W705a, but the W705 is listed as one of the handsets Telecom will be offering.




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Reply # 217519 24-May-2009 21:03 Send private message

camtab: Can you just confirm the Sony Ericcson W705a is in fact 850MHz as I have searched the net and its only listed as 900/2100MHz so does this mean it wont actually work in most XT areas and only in the "backfilled" 2100 parts?




This is one of the phones they are heavily marketing



From the Sony Ericsson global web site...


W705a...



Networks
- HSDPA
- GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
- UMTS/HSPA 850/1900/2100
- UMTS/HSUPA 850/1900/2100


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  Reply # 217553 24-May-2009 22:30 Send private message

Testdrive.co.nz clearly states that it's a W705a.

As far as I can tell, TNZ will not be launching any handset on XTN that doesn't do 850MHz W-CDMA. Why would they? It's just not worth the hassle with customers!




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  Reply # 217569 25-May-2009 08:01 Send private message

What a great informative article. I've linked it to my website.

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  Reply # 217577 25-May-2009 08:22 Send private message

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camtab: Can you just confirm the Sony Ericcson W705a is in fact 850MHz as I have searched the net and its only listed as 900/2100MHz so does this mean it wont actually work in most XT areas and only in the "backfilled" 2100 parts?

This is one of the phones they are heavily marketing


I don't know about W705a, but the W705 is listed as one of the handsets Telecom will be offering.


W705 = 900/1900/2100
W705a = 850/1900/2100



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Reply # 217580 25-May-2009 08:35 Send private message

Behodar:
freitasm:
camtab: Can you just confirm the Sony Ericcson W705a is in fact 850MHz as I have searched the net and its only listed as 900/2100MHz so does this mean it wont actually work in most XT areas and only in the "backfilled" 2100 parts?

This is one of the phones they are heavily marketing


I don't know about W705a, but the W705 is listed as one of the handsets Telecom will be offering.


W705 = 900/1900/2100
W705a = 850/1900/2100


Why just not say, for the sake of this conversation, that Telecom will offer the model that works on their XT Network?





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  Reply # 217581 25-May-2009 08:37 Send private message

freitasm: Why just not say, for the sake of this conversation, that Telecom will offer the model that works on their XT Network?


Indeed, it would be rather silly of them to offer a handset that didn't work on their network Tongue out




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  Reply # 217662 25-May-2009 13:36 Send private message

freitasm:

Probably those services decided that the risk of someone being actually in an emergency with a handset and no SIM card is less than the risk of some pranksters removing the SIM card just to keep calling 111 without being identified...



Also, having had to actually do this a couple of times, the likelihood of a success follow-up contact to someone who has made an emergency call without a SIM is next to nothing in a timely manner. If you force them to use a SIM, you have their number (whatever it is) and can call them back.

Without a SIM, not so much.





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Reply # 217752 25-May-2009 16:53 Send private message

iv just been into telecom (the palms) they have two fones that work 1 is the samsung 1 and the other 1 is the sony ericson 1. you can call on them. the call quality is really good :)













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