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Master Geek


  Reply # 645178 23-Jun-2012 17:16 Send private message

Handle9:
princesscam:
Handle9:
princesscam: i can't even post at the vf forums, so frustrating, this is it for me.
unlimited naked at slingshot for $90


Good luck, I think you'll need it...


what is that suppose to mean? is slingshot lacking?


Your mileage may vary but I'd never go back to them. We went from slingshot to Vodafone at my last house and got a consistent 3-4Mb increase of speed in the evening. They were reselling Vodafone at that stage so it was purely backhaul.

I've heard varying reports since as above YMMV.


someone using slingshot in my area has better speeds than me (on voda)
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i asked slingshot what i could expect my speed to be and he said "It should be the same as your previous provider as this is mostly related to your line speed" ??


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  Reply # 645179 23-Jun-2012 17:21 Send private message

princesscam: someone using slingshot in my area has better speeds than me (on voda)
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i asked slingshot what i could expect my speed to be and he said "It should be the same as your previous provider as this is mostly related to your line speed" ??


Someone must have better quality house wiring, Speed is not just related to your line speed far from it

John






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  Reply # 645181 23-Jun-2012 17:34 Send private message

princesscam:

someone using slingshot in my area has better speeds than me (on voda)



This is almost irrelevant. Your wiring will be different, your distances to the exchange/cabinet will be different. This limits the maximum deliverable performance.

princesscam:
i asked slingshot what i could expect my speed to be and he said "It should be the same as your previous provider as this is mostly related to your line speed" ??



There are two limitations to speed, one is the speed your line will deliver, the other that your provider can deliver with their infrastructure. In my experience Vodafones infrastructure is first class, Slingshots not at all and Orcon somewhere in the middle. As always YMMV. This is worth having a look at though..

https://www.truenet.co.nz/articles/may-2012-broadband-report


Edit fixed typo

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Master Geek


  Reply # 645182 23-Jun-2012 17:35 Send private message

johnr:
princesscam: someone using slingshot in my area has better speeds than me (on voda)
+
i asked slingshot what i could expect my speed to be and he said "It should be the same as your previous provider as this is mostly related to your line speed" ??


Someone must have better quality house wiring, Speed is not just related to your line speed far from it

John


well that's why i ask lots of questions cos i really don't know how it all works.
all i have to go on really is what ppl say and that included the advice of checking speed test results.

from slingshot in christchurch:
http://speedtest.net/result/1992711107.png
(looks appalling to me)?

and from slingshot whangarei:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1994310806.png
(looks awesome)

and mine from vodafone:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1992830809.png
(i'm also in whangarei)

i am not unhappy with my speeds (but any improvement is welcome)
its just the plan I'm on!. and i want to make sure i am getting good speeds/stable connection 
from any new provider/plan i go on.


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Master Geek


  Reply # 645185 23-Jun-2012 17:53 Send private message

Handle9:
princesscam:

someone using slingshot in my area has better speeds than me (on voda)



This is almost irrelevant. Your wiring will be different, your distances to the exchange/cabinet will be different. This limits the maximum deliverable performance.

princesscam:
i asked slingshot what i could expect my speed to be and he said "It should be the same as your previous provider as this is mostly related to your line speed" ??



There are two limitations to speed, one is the speed your line will deliver, the other that your provider can deliver with their infrastructure. In my experience Vodafones infrastructure is first class, Slingshots not at all and Orcon somewhere in the middle. As always YMMV. This is worth having a look at though..

https://www.truenet.co.nz/articles/may-2012-broadband-report


Edit fixed typo


this is almost irrelevant? i have just been told that location plays a part in your line speeds?

my house/wiring must be ok with the speeds i am currently getting and i don't know where the exchange is in whangarei but i am really close to town/cbd.

there is no point in having first class infrastructure if you cant use it because the data needs of the user  far exceed the limit.

(thanks for posting this, it will give me some more things to think about -i am really no closer in deciding what my next move will be as i am sure all of the providers have their drawbacks whether it be price, data or service).





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  Reply # 645191 23-Jun-2012 18:20 Send private message

princesscam:
Handle9:
princesscam:

someone using slingshot in my area has better speeds than me (on voda)



This is almost irrelevant. Your wiring will be different, your distances to the exchange/cabinet will be different. This limits the maximum deliverable performance.

princesscam:
i asked slingshot what i could expect my speed to be and he said "It should be the same as your previous provider as this is mostly related to your line speed" ??



There are two limitations to speed, one is the speed your line will deliver, the other that your provider can deliver with their infrastructure. In my experience Vodafones infrastructure is first class, Slingshots not at all and Orcon somewhere in the middle. As always YMMV. This is worth having a look at though..

https://www.truenet.co.nz/articles/may-2012-broadband-report


Edit fixed typo


this is almost irrelevant? i have just been told that location plays a part in your line speeds?

my house/wiring must be ok with the speeds i am currently getting and i don't know where the exchange is in whangarei but i am really close to town/cbd.

there is no point in having first class infrastructure if you cant use it because the data needs of the user  far exceed the limit.

(thanks for posting this, it will give me some more things to think about -i am really no closer in deciding what my next move will be as i am sure all of the providers have their drawbacks whether it be price, data or service).




The reason I say it isn't all that relevant is that you maybe in the same are but have different maximum line speeds due to different wiring within your property, different quality of wiring from the street to your property and different distances to the road side cabinet or exchange. There are a number of variables which govern this speed.

I understand what you are saying, around data usage, I just would do my homework around the provider that I chose. For example Slingshot traffic shape on the unlimited plan. I would make sure that the traffic I generate was prioritised. 

Spend some time reading these forums for a start and pick the provider that meets your needs, don't just do it on price alone as you MAY be disappointed.

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Master Geek


  Reply # 645196 23-Jun-2012 18:45 Send private message

Handle9:
princesscam:
Handle9:
princesscam:

someone using slingshot in my area has better speeds than me (on voda)



This is almost irrelevant. Your wiring will be different, your distances to the exchange/cabinet will be different. This limits the maximum deliverable performance.

princesscam:
i asked slingshot what i could expect my speed to be and he said "It should be the same as your previous provider as this is mostly related to your line speed" ??



There are two limitations to speed, one is the speed your line will deliver, the other that your provider can deliver with their infrastructure. In my experience Vodafones infrastructure is first class, Slingshots not at all and Orcon somewhere in the middle. As always YMMV. This is worth having a look at though..

https://www.truenet.co.nz/articles/may-2012-broadband-report


Edit fixed typo


this is almost irrelevant? i have just been told that location plays a part in your line speeds?

my house/wiring must be ok with the speeds i am currently getting and i don't know where the exchange is in whangarei but i am really close to town/cbd.

there is no point in having first class infrastructure if you cant use it because the data needs of the user  far exceed the limit.

(thanks for posting this, it will give me some more things to think about -i am really no closer in deciding what my next move will be as i am sure all of the providers have their drawbacks whether it be price, data or service).




The reason I say it isn't all that relevant is that you maybe in the same are but have different maximum line speeds due to different wiring within your property, different quality of wiring from the street to your property and different distances to the road side cabinet or exchange. There are a number of variables which govern this speed.

I understand what you are saying, around data usage, I just would do my homework around the provider that I chose. For example Slingshot traffic shape on the unlimited plan. I would make sure that the traffic I generate was prioritised. 

Spend some time reading these forums for a start and pick the provider that meets your needs, don't just do it on price alone as you MAY be disappointed.


i'm def doing my homework, there is just so much to consider and i keep ending back at square one.

good service/reliable service & speed are the 'most' important i have decided.
(obviously with enough data to suit my needs)

what i am looking for (ideally) -in no order:

large or unlimited data (150/250GB +)
^ at the cheapest price on market
free wireless modem -am ok to sign up for contract (prefer 1 yr will 'think' about 2)
good speeds
reliable service
prompt and good customer service (not long wait times on phone)
naked -phone not needed.

bonus/appealing would be nice sign up deals, 1st 2 months free, sky (not sports), tivo.
anything else (best mates, calling deals etc) are of no interest.

i am feeling a bit pressed for time as i will cancel with vodafone on the 30th yet some providers can take 2-3 weeks to get you connected, i don't want to have to pay another months worth of service.





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Master Geek


  Reply # 645197 23-Jun-2012 18:49 Send private message






"For example Slingshot traffic shape on the unlimited plan. I would make sure that the traffic I generate was prioritised". 

i am unsure what you are saying -what do you mean that the traffic i generate was prioritised?




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Geek


  Reply # 645198 23-Jun-2012 18:49 Send private message

princesscam:
Handle9:
princesscam:
Handle9:
princesscam:

someone using slingshot in my area has better speeds than me (on voda)



This is almost irrelevant. Your wiring will be different, your distances to the exchange/cabinet will be different. This limits the maximum deliverable performance.

princesscam:
i asked slingshot what i could expect my speed to be and he said "It should be the same as your previous provider as this is mostly related to your line speed" ??



There are two limitations to speed, one is the speed your line will deliver, the other that your provider can deliver with their infrastructure. In my experience Vodafones infrastructure is first class, Slingshots not at all and Orcon somewhere in the middle. As always YMMV. This is worth having a look at though..

https://www.truenet.co.nz/articles/may-2012-broadband-report


Edit fixed typo


this is almost irrelevant? i have just been told that location plays a part in your line speeds?

my house/wiring must be ok with the speeds i am currently getting and i don't know where the exchange is in whangarei but i am really close to town/cbd.

there is no point in having first class infrastructure if you cant use it because the data needs of the user ?far exceed the limit.

(thanks for posting this, it will give me some more things to think about -i am really no closer in deciding what my next move will be as i am sure all of the providers have their drawbacks whether it be price, data or service).




The reason I say it isn't all that relevant is that you maybe in the same are but have different maximum line speeds due to different wiring within your property, different quality of wiring from the street to your property and different distances to the road side cabinet or exchange. There are a number of variables which govern this speed.

I understand what you are saying, around data usage, I just would do my homework around the provider that I chose. For example Slingshot traffic shape on the unlimited plan. I would make sure that the traffic I generate was prioritised.?

Spend some time reading these forums for a start and pick the provider that meets your needs, don't just do it on price alone as you MAY be disappointed.


i'm def doing my homework, there is just so much to consider and i keep ending back at square one.

good service/reliable service & speed are the 'most' important i have decided.
(obviously with enough data to suit my needs)

what i am looking for (ideally) -in no order:

large or unlimited data (150/250GB +)
^ at the cheapest price on market
free wireless modem -am ok to sign up for contract (prefer 1 yr will 'think' about 2)
good speeds
reliable service
prompt and good customer service (not long wait times on phone)
naked -phone not needed.

bonus/appealing would be nice sign up deals, 1st 2 months free, sky (not sports), tivo.
anything else (best mates, calling deals etc) are of no interest.

i am feeling a bit pressed for time as i will cancel with vodafone on the 30th yet some providers can take 2-3 weeks to get you connected, i don't want to have to pay another months worth of service.






You need to give 30 days notice.



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  Reply # 645212 23-Jun-2012 19:38 Send private message

princesscam:




"For example Slingshot traffic shape on the unlimited plan. I would make sure that the traffic I generate was prioritised". 

i am unsure what you are saying -what do you mean that the traffic i generate was prioritised?





Traffic shaping means slowing down different types of traffic to try and make sure there is acceptable performance. Eg they slow down bit torrent. Do your research and make your choice.

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Master Geek


  Reply # 645217 23-Jun-2012 19:49 Send private message

Handle9:
princesscam:




"For example Slingshot traffic shape on the unlimited plan. I would make sure that the traffic I generate was prioritised". 

i am unsure what you are saying -what do you mean that the traffic i generate was prioritised?





Traffic shaping means slowing down different types of traffic to try and make sure there is acceptable performance. Eg they slow down bit torrent. Do your research and make your choice.


that is mostly what i use it for, but is that just in peak times? and even so would it still be downloading at around 800kb/ps? cos that would be ok to me!.



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  Reply # 645218 23-Jun-2012 19:51 Send private message

princesscam:

i'm def doing my homework, there is just so much to consider and i keep ending back at square one.

good service/reliable service & speed are the 'most' important i have decided.
(obviously with enough data to suit my needs)

what i am looking for (ideally) -in no order:

large or unlimited data (150/250GB +)
^ at the cheapest price on market
free wireless modem -am ok to sign up for contract (prefer 1 yr will 'think' about 2)
good speeds
reliable service
prompt and good customer service (not long wait times on phone)
naked -phone not needed.

bonus/appealing would be nice sign up deals, 1st 2 months free, sky (not sports), tivo.
anything else (best mates, calling deals etc) are of no interest.

i am feeling a bit pressed for time as i will cancel with vodafone on the 30th yet some providers can take 2-3 weeks to get you connected, i don't want to have to pay another months worth of service.







You're not going to get everything you want. Pick the two or three that are most important. From what you've said I'd guess Snap, Orcon, Fyx or Slingshot would fit the "numbers" part of what you want. I have no experience of Snap or Fyx, in my experience Vodafone are better than Orcon or Slingshot.

As someone else has said there are 3 components, good performance, good service and good pricing. GENERALLY you can only have 2. 

This thread is a reasonable place to start, then have a good read of the specific forum of whoever you choose to see what their customers complain about (generally you'll only hear the complaints, there aren't too many ISP XYZ is awesome topics). If you can live with these types of issues then choose them(eg there are lots of comments complaining about Vodafones data caps, not their speed/reliabilty). If you don't spend the time then it really is your problem.







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  Reply # 645220 23-Jun-2012 19:54 Send private message

princesscam:
Handle9:
princesscam:




"For example Slingshot traffic shape on the unlimited plan. I would make sure that the traffic I generate was prioritised". 

i am unsure what you are saying -what do you mean that the traffic i generate was prioritised?





Traffic shaping means slowing down different types of traffic to try and make sure there is acceptable performance. Eg they slow down bit torrent. Do your research and make your choice.


that is mostly what i use it for, but is that just in peak times? and even so would it still be downloading at around 800kb/ps? cos that would be ok to me!.


I don't know, either go and start a topic in their forum section and ask for some feedback or do some reading in their forums. This is exactly what I mean about doing your homework, there is lots of information available, do a search or start a topic.

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Master Geek


  Reply # 645222 23-Jun-2012 19:56 Send private message

Handle9:
princesscam:
Handle9:
princesscam:




"For example Slingshot traffic shape on the unlimited plan. I would make sure that the traffic I generate was prioritised". 

i am unsure what you are saying -what do you mean that the traffic i generate was prioritised?





Traffic shaping means slowing down different types of traffic to try and make sure there is acceptable performance. Eg they slow down bit torrent. Do your research and make your choice.


that is mostly what i use it for, but is that just in peak times? and even so would it still be downloading at around 800kb/ps? cos that would be ok to me!.


I don't know, either go and start a topic in their forum section and ask for some feedback or do some reading in their forums. This is exactly what I mean about doing your homework, there is lots of information available, do a search or start a topic.


ok, thank you.

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Master Geek


  Reply # 645235 23-Jun-2012 20:41 Send private message

Handle9:
princesscam:

i'm def doing my homework, there is just so much to consider and i keep ending back at square one.

good service/reliable service & speed are the 'most' important i have decided.
(obviously with enough data to suit my needs)

what i am looking for (ideally) -in no order:

large or unlimited data (150/250GB +)
^ at the cheapest price on market
free wireless modem -am ok to sign up for contract (prefer 1 yr will 'think' about 2)
good speeds
reliable service
prompt and good customer service (not long wait times on phone)
naked -phone not needed.

bonus/appealing would be nice sign up deals, 1st 2 months free, sky (not sports), tivo.
anything else (best mates, calling deals etc) are of no interest.

i am feeling a bit pressed for time as i will cancel with vodafone on the 30th yet some providers can take 2-3 weeks to get you connected, i don't want to have to pay another months worth of service.







You're not going to get everything you want. Pick the two or three that are most important. From what you've said I'd guess Snap, Orcon, Fyx or Slingshot would fit the "numbers" part of what you want. I have no experience of Snap or Fyx, in my experience Vodafone are better than Orcon or Slingshot.

As someone else has said there are 3 components, good performance, good service and good pricing. GENERALLY you can only have 2. 

This thread is a reasonable place to start, then have a good read of the specific forum of whoever you choose to see what their customers complain about (generally you'll only hear the complaints, there aren't too many ISP XYZ is awesome topics). If you can live with these types of issues then choose them(eg there are lots of comments complaining about Vodafones data caps, not their speed/reliabilty). If you don't spend the time then it really is your problem.







usable/reliable/large data plan has to be first, cos if it's not there everything else is irrelevant.


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