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Topic # 138715 14-Jan-2014 15:46 Send private message

I'm an existing My Sky HDi subscriber who also has a Telstraclear (Vodafone) cable connection.

Thinking of moving to one of the new Vodafone UFB (over cable) + Vodafone TV bundles/deals.

I'd be interested in the experiences of folk who've already made a similar switch. How does the user experience and overall package of Vodafone TV compare to My Sky HDi? For e.g.:
  • storage capacity of Voda TV recorder is stated as 300GB, does it fill up any faster than Sky HDi? Any option to bump it up as with My Sky+?
  • picture quality - any noticeable difference in level of compression over UFB vs satellite? (yes I'm aware from reading other threads the HD/SD channel designations are the same on both, so comparing say Sky Sport 1 HD on both is there any difference?)
  • can you still sign-up for and use the Sky Go service on an iPad for instance?
  • and how about the Sky android/iphone apps that 'talk' to the Sky HDi unit to allow remote recording - do they work with the VF TV box too? If not, is there any VF TV equivalent?
  • user interface - understand VF TV is higher res, but how's the speed? (saw one user posting it was a bit slower)

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  Reply # 966903 14-Jan-2014 15:46 Send private message

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  Reply # 966984 14-Jan-2014 17:18 Send private message

  • storage capacity of Voda TV recorder is stated as 300GB, does it fill up any faster than Sky HDi? Any option to bump it up as with My Sky+?
300GB - One decoder - Depends on what your recording at what quality.
  • picture quality - any noticeable difference in level of compression over UFB vs satellite? (yes I'm aware from reading other threads the HD/SD channel designations are the same on both, so comparing say Sky Sport 1 HD on both is there any difference?)
Non compressed - Full HD where is avaliable
  • can you still sign-up for and use the Sky Go service on an iPad for instance?
Nope
  • and how about the Sky android/iphone apps that 'talk' to the Sky HDi unit to allow remote recording - do they work with the VF TV box too? If not, is there any VF TV equivalent?
Not sure.
  • user interface - understand VF TV is higher res, but how's the speed? (saw one user posting it was a bit slower)
Not much different. Different UI that is more visually rich.




 


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  Reply # 967069 14-Jan-2014 20:04 Send private message

TimA:

  • storage capacity of Voda TV recorder is stated as 300GB, does it fill up any faster than Sky HDi? Any option to bump it up as with My Sky+?


300GB - One decoder - Depends on what your recording at what quality.


  • picture quality - any noticeable difference in level of compression over UFB vs satellite? (yes I'm aware from reading other threads the HD/SD channel designations are the same on both, so comparing say Sky Sport 1 HD on both is there any difference?)


Non compressed - Full HD where is avaliable



    Picture quality seems much better all round. Particularly the HD stuff really quite stunning.

  • can you still sign-up for and use the Sky Go service on an iPad for instance?


  • I was working initially after I swapped over now I get a stream concurrency error all the time so probably not.


Nope


  • and how about the Sky android/iphone apps that 'talk' to the Sky HDi unit to allow remote recording - do they work with the VF TV box too? If not, is there any VF TV equivalent?


Not sure.


No they no longer work.

  • user interface - understand VF TV is higher res, but how's the speed? (saw one user posting it was a bit slower)


Not much different. Different UI that is more visually rich.

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  Reply # 967673 15-Jan-2014 17:05 Send private message

I am very interested in this as well, will be moving from Auckland to Wellington next week and moving to Vodafone TV from having my sky+ for the past few years.



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  Reply # 968408 16-Jan-2014 18:17 Send private message

Thanks for the feedback. This site's formatting of the response posts makes them hard to follow, so to summarise (incl info since confirmed by Vodafone) re the Vodafone TV service over UFB (fibre or cable):
  • Picture quality - per Rokki "Picture quality seems much better all round. Particularly the HD stuff really quite stunning. " That is great news. Certainly what I would have hoped for - in theory lower per unit cost of bandwidth over cable vs satellite ought to mean less motivation for cable/UFB TV providers to agressively compress video streams - particularly HD streams - to save costs. Very cool to hear that seems to actually be the case. If so they ought to market this as a point of difference, though suspect this might breach whatever agreement they have with Sky for content...
  • None of the bonus Sky services work with the VF box/TV service (VF have confirmed this also) - i.e. neither remote record via Sky's website or iphone/android nor the Sky Go service will work. 
  • VF TV recorder speed - 2-3 second delay when changing channels (this per VF helpdesk) - I'm guessing its to do with the fact the new channel's video stream has to be requested, sent, received and buffered over cable while with Satellite its just switching across to an existing feed just on a different frequency. 
  • VF TV recorder interface - higher resolution & richer than My Sky HDi/plus
  • Just the one version - 300GB
For what is worth in my situation - I'm looking at an 80GB UFB 50Mb/s plan with Sky + sports on VF TV and as I have an eligible VF on account mobile plan ($30 discount) - it basically works out $30 less than what I'm currently paying in total for the same Sky package on HDi and a 60GB 15mb/s legacy T/clear cable plan. So it makes sense financially (if you can live with the missing Sky extras and the 300GB storage - I think I can). Not quite so compelling if the $30 VF mobile plan discount wasn't available.

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  Reply # 969165 17-Jan-2014 22:27 Send private message

TimA: can you still sign-up for and use the Sky Go service on an iPad for instance?
Nope


That doesn't appear to be fully true. I signed up with my Telstra account number when it was iSky and my login still seems to work (and pick up that I now have movies where I didn't before). There's also a Link to your Telstra TV account link on the account settings page.

Although having said that I'm not having much luck actually playing anything - the little "wheel" just keeps spinning and spinning when I play (on Chrome/Linux).

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  Reply # 969219 18-Jan-2014 05:38 Send private message

Well I just turned off my Wifi and through my sure signal Sky Go does still work it just doesn't seem to like my DNS setting through unblock us hmmm might see if I can raise a support ticket with them.

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  Reply # 969986 20-Jan-2014 13:09 Send private message

Using SkyGo just fine with TCl login.

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  Reply # 970346 20-Jan-2014 22:31 Send private message

Hi Quinny are you running any DNS type service ?

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  Reply # 973488 24-Jan-2014 13:03 Send private message

Nope. Just the standard TCL 44 and 46. Works fine on ipad mini (which uses NZ store). Sorry for slow reply.

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  Reply # 976066 28-Jan-2014 17:22 Send private message

r2b2:
TimA: can you still sign-up for and use the Sky Go service on an iPad for instance?
Nope


That doesn't appear to be fully true. I signed up with my Telstra account number when it was iSky and my login still seems to work (and pick up that I now have movies where I didn't before). There's also a Link to your Telstra TV account link on the account settings page.

Although having said that I'm not having much luck actually playing anything - the little "wheel" just keeps spinning and spinning when I play (on Chrome/Linux).


I use Sky Go on my iPhone.  I find when I am using mobile data or my home network it streams fine.  Through the work proxy it does not... however I am not surprised.

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  Reply # 976453 29-Jan-2014 09:23 Send private message

Hi,

Im also considering switching over to Vodafone TV (over UFB) for the cost savings,

Just a couple of questions too,

Will Vodafone eventually make an app so you can remote record? Or at least enable you to do it over the web?

I have a universal remote already programmed to my myski box, will the vodafone box use the same remote codes?

Lastly, can you get the Vodafone guys to split the signal so that all rooms in the house can receive the same sky channel?

Cheers in advance, 

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  Reply # 976456 29-Jan-2014 09:26 One person supports this post Send private message

Yes you can rf back feed (I do atm). App - dont hold your breath been asking for years and nada. I would expect codes will change for remotes but the voda/TCL one is programmable so it can run tv, box and 3rd device which is nice.

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  Reply # 976465 29-Jan-2014 09:39 Send private message

cheers mate,


when you say for years, didnt this Vodafone TV just get launched a few months ago?

Anyway, I think I can live without for now given the savings you'll get,



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  Reply # 976467 29-Jan-2014 09:41 Send private message

Its the TCL TBox that was used with TCl cable by another name as far as I know. Insides delivery might be different but the software interface looks identical to what cable people are using.

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