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Topic # 139195 30-Jan-2014 23:25 Send private message

Have heard from friends that I am unable to get 4G on this plan and it's a deliberate ploy from Vodafone to force those of us on old plans to change so they can make more $$.

Thoughts? Can Vodafone do this?





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  Reply # 977749 30-Jan-2014 23:36 5 people support this post Send private message

Yes

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  Reply # 977753 30-Jan-2014 23:46 Send private message

Yes this is correct, Only the newer plans have the ability to have 4G provisioned on them.

You can stay on the old plan as long as you want but if you want newer features (e.g 4G) you will need to move to a plan that supports them.



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  Reply # 977754 30-Jan-2014 23:49 Send private message

Seems ludicrous to me. You have the infrastructure you let your clients use it????





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  Reply # 977758 31-Jan-2014 00:12 One person supports this post Send private message

Not really correct.

The reason is the old plans (like the Smart 1) get locked as they're grandfathered which means people can't be provisioned on them, nor any changes can be made. It's the same with Telecom's billing system. Sure they could unlock them but these people on a 4 year old plan should potentially resign their plan, it's not worth giving them an excuse to stay paying little money for what was supposed to be a promotional plan.

If they were really out to be evil they should remove the promotional data which actually ended years ago and put it back to the plan defaults of 250mb - this would force you to move ;)

But anyway, 3G is plenty for 99% of people. 4G is the future but it's not on the same level as the speed improvement GPRS to HSDPA gave for example (yet).




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  Reply # 977775 31-Jan-2014 03:53 Send private message

rossmnz: Seems ludicrous to me. You have the infrastructure you let your clients use it????


Like the toll road heading North? This plan was grandfathered years back and no one is forcing you off it

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  Reply # 977780 31-Jan-2014 06:17 One person supports this post Send private message

A grandfathered plan is exactly that - you don't get cheaper calling, cheaper data or free voicemail like most new plans have.

You're on a grandfathered plan and will get those same terms and conditions for as long as you're on that plan. If you believe Vodafone should give you something that that plan doesn't offer, I assume you'd be just as happy for Vodafone to suddenly increase the price one day?

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  Reply # 977781 31-Jan-2014 06:34 Send private message

It is worth talking to Vodafone about your options some of the current Bring your own Smartphone open term plans are competitive with the old smart plans.

There are a range of data addons available which Vodafone don't promote eg 2GB for $30.00 which include 4g.

There's obviously no phone subsidy though

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  Reply # 977870 31-Jan-2014 10:23 Send private message

This is the same issue that I raised some time ago and after a discussion with a chap at Vodafone, we both agreed I was better off on my old grandfathered plan, with 3G DC (still getting twice the speed of my home broadband).

4G speed is great, but at the end of the day it's not enough of a difference to make me want to re-sign on a plan that will give me half the benefits I want for twice the price I currently pay.

As has been said above...it's MY choice - nobody is forcing me to remain on this grandfathered plan and nobody is forcing me off it.

maybe when the iPhone 6 comes out, i may look at a change...but then again, maybe not.





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  Reply # 977884 31-Jan-2014 10:41 Send private message

With the exception of this single plan all the new plans offer better value than the old Smart plans.

I saved $20 or so per month moving off Smart3 and get 3GB of data and more minutes.

The $39 is the one exception to this.





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  Reply # 977890 31-Jan-2014 10:53 Send private message

Even with the $39.00 open term plan combined with 2 GB for $30.00 means that I am paying $69.00 as opposed to $63.00 for Smart 2. In that I have more then doubled  my available minutes have the flexibility to get NZ best mate as opposed to best mate, have access to 4G (not that my device is  4G compatible) and still have GB of Data. So for a cost of $6.00 a week extra I have a plan that far better meets my need. I can also ditch my Telecom prepaid phone which I kept mainly for my favourite numbers that I couldn't previously call on Vodafone best mate.

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  Reply # 977951 31-Jan-2014 11:32 Send private message

The go-to 4G plan we've been suggesting through social media channels for folks still on the grandfathered Smart deals is the $29 open term + the 2GB for $30 add-on for a total of 150 mins, unlimited texts, & 2.5GB for $59. If more data is required, additional 500MB blocks are $10 a pop with Flexi Data, & if more minutes are required, $10 doubles it to 300.

Plenty of other options, of course, but for those who're chiefly data-hungry, this one's a good one. :)




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  Reply # 978047 31-Jan-2014 13:10 Send private message

NikT: The go-to 4G plan we've been suggesting through social media channels for folks still on the grandfathered Smart deals is the $29 open term + the 2GB for $30 add-on for a total of 150 mins, unlimited texts, & 2.5GB for $59. If more data is required, additional 500MB blocks are $10 a pop with Flexi Data, & if more minutes are required, $10 doubles it to 300.

Plenty of other options, of course, but for those who're chiefly data-hungry, this one's a good one. :)

But again - compare this to the original grandfathered plan:

Suggested plan: $59.00
unlimited txt
2.5GB data
150 min

Old plan: $41.00
2500 txt
1000 pxt
60 min
1 x best mate
3Gb data

So - for $18 extra I get more txtx than I could possibly use, no pxtx, 500MB less data and an additional 90min call time

Personally (as discussed and agreed with the CSR at VF), I just don't see the value, inless I am getting a massive phone subsidy...






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  Reply # 978059 31-Jan-2014 13:15 Send private message

Handsomedan:
NikT: The go-to 4G plan we've been suggesting through social media channels for folks still on the grandfathered Smart deals is the $29 open term + the 2GB for $30 add-on for a total of 150 mins, unlimited texts, & 2.5GB for $59. If more data is required, additional 500MB blocks are $10 a pop with Flexi Data, & if more minutes are required, $10 doubles it to 300.

Plenty of other options, of course, but for those who're chiefly data-hungry, this one's a good one. :)

But again - compare this to the original grandfathered plan:

Suggested plan: $59.00
unlimited txt
2.5GB data
150 min

Old plan: $41.00
2500 txt
1000 pxt
60 min
1 x best mate
3Gb data

So - for $18 extra I get more txtx than I could possibly use, no pxtx, 500MB less data and an additional 90min call time

Personally (as discussed and agreed with the CSR at VF), I just don't see the value, inless I am getting a massive phone subsidy...




150Mbps in my pocket holds a lot more value to me personally than PXTs, and HD Voice has made calling a lot more interesting - but hey, that's why people on those plans are welcome to keep them. :)




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  Reply # 978067 31-Jan-2014 13:25 Send private message


But again - compare this to the original grandfathered plan:

Suggested plan: $59.00
unlimited txt
2.5GB data
150 min

Old plan: $41.00
2500 txt
1000 pxt
60 min
1 x best mate
3Gb data

So - for $18 extra I get more txtx than I could possibly use, no pxtx, 500MB less data and an additional 90min call time

Personally (as discussed and agreed with the CSR at VF), I just don't see the value, inless I am getting a massive phone subsidy...



I'm with you.  I'm on Smart 1 and have yet to see a plan that's worth changing for.  3GB of data with 60 mins tt and 1 best mate for $40 is the best plan IMO.  Shame it's not still available for others.



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  Reply # 978083 31-Jan-2014 13:59 Send private message

Good to see some peeps agreeing with me!

Hopefully VF see this and act accordingly





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