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  Reply # 651070 5-Jul-2012 08:39 Send private message

Way to distort what I said.

In other words: even with standards you'd still be doing it wrong. Standards don't mean security. Standards don't mean quality.

Look at ISO 9000 "Quality Management Sysytems". It's actually made it so that your processes are repeatable and any deviation can be found and fixed. It doesn't mean the management systems are of "quality".

I see "standards" in the context of this thread being used as a buzzword, a panacea that will cure all ailments. It's not. People still have to put things together in a way that

a) it works when plugged in
b) it is safe
c) it is understandable to those who were trained in the way of the technology

It doesn't mean John Doe, the butcher, can design and deploy an IP network at home because it follow standards.

John Doe can probably plug the yellow ethernet cable from the modem to the yellow port in the router, and use the other black cables to plug the black ethernet cables from the devices to the black port in the router. That's all he needs to know. He doesn't need to know IP.

John Doe, the MD can probably plug the yellow, red, white cables from the yellow, red, white ports in his VCR to the yellow, red, white cables in his TV.

That's all John Doe, the butcher and John Doe, the MD need to know about the technology behind these kinds of sorcery.





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Reply # 654948 13-Jul-2012 10:54 Send private message

I think Skype is good for using, and very low prices.

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  Reply # 654949 13-Jul-2012 10:57 Send private message

You realise Skype is not in the same league as a full VoIP service? If you use their incoming numbers they don't respect the NAD, and don't allow number portability.

Skype as a residential solution is half done.




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Reply # 654953 13-Jul-2012 11:02 Send private message

skype inbound cli is currently presenting as 0000123456 .... I guess they don't care as along as it works




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  Reply # 655012 13-Jul-2012 12:55 Send private message

maverick: skype inbound cli is currently presenting as 0000123456 .... I guess they don't care as along as it works


Skype connect gives a real CLID on inbound calls..




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  Reply # 655020 13-Jul-2012 13:07 Send private message

maverick: skype inbound cli is currently presenting as 0000123456 .... I guess they don't care as along as it works


This is stuff I very much agree with you on Mav!

CID is an important feature in my mind and one that I wonder if there should even be regulation around in New Zealand.

Personally I see no valid reason to withhold CID. 






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