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  Reply # 654762 12-Jul-2012 19:02 Send private message

Good news, hopefully this will bring more capital to the TelstraClear divisions and generate some momentum.




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  Reply # 654819 12-Jul-2012 22:17 Send private message

I was more curious about what job losses will be happening. Having been through restructuring myself at TCL, I wonder who will be the winner after the restructuring process is complete.

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  Reply # 654820 12-Jul-2012 22:28 Send private message

quickymart: I was more curious about what job losses will be happening. Having been through restructuring myself at TCL, I wonder who will be the winner after the restructuring process is complete.


It will be really interesting to see what happens when they consolidate their call centres. Overseas outsourcing and centralisation of call centres has been a disaster for telcos and Vodafone have brought theirs back while Telstraclear have stubbornly stuck to their agenda of shifting this function to the Phillipines. 

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  Reply # 654821 12-Jul-2012 22:34 Send private message

Interesting!

Does this mean that they have just sold DMZ Global as well (or their share of that company)?

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  Reply # 654865 13-Jul-2012 07:10 Send private message

Will be interesting to see what happens to TCL's unmetered content, Game Servers etc, as Vodafone is reknown for being rather Anti that.




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  Reply # 654875 13-Jul-2012 08:05 Send private message

Ping: Interesting!

Does this mean that they have just sold DMZ Global as well (or their share of that company)?


DMZGlobal is 100% owned by TelstraClear - so when the sale goes through..... yes.

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  Reply # 654890 13-Jul-2012 08:55 Send private message

Wow - Thanks for that.

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  Reply # 654919 13-Jul-2012 10:14 Send private message

crazed: Will be interesting to see what happens to TCL's unmetered content, Game Servers etc, as Vodafone is reknown for being rather Anti that.

If you read my post earlier these services will be the first to be given the axe and will be a very disappointing loss

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  Reply # 654934 13-Jul-2012 10:25 Send private message

How can you speculate that this service is going to be given the cut?

Have you got some evidence to make this claim or is this unsubstantiated rumour?

The only thing I have heard that the call center is coming back to NZ (good!)

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  Reply # 654936 13-Jul-2012 10:31 Send private message

quickymart: Here's hoping that it doesn't go the way it went when TelstraClear took over Paradise/Saturn.

TelstraClear didn't take over Saturn. Saturn *became* TelstraClear by merging with TelstraNZ and then buying Clear.

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  Reply # 654938 13-Jul-2012 10:33 Send private message

DarthKermit:
I was with paradise.net.nz since 2000.
Had to change to TC after they phased out the Paradise brand.
Am I going to have to do this again? [username] @ Vodafone.co.nz ? 


Not quite sure what you mean. I still use my Paradise account and email address - I've never been asked to change them. I believe that Paradise has been "grandfathered" as a product, but it's still supported.



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  Reply # 654947 13-Jul-2012 10:53 Send private message

I havee only skimmed the discussion, but some stuff to consider:

- Vodafone is acquiring the largest unbundled local network (TelstraClear's got more gear in exchanges around the country than other ISPs).

- Vodafone is getting a national backbone. The implications are huge, and will allow then to increase bandwidth allowing a much bigger traffic for their mobile data up and down the country.

- Vodafone is getting a troublesome transparent proxy. I hope they can fix the overselling of that proxy farm sooner rather than later.

- DMZGlobal is a good acquisition for them.

- In my opinion it will be months, if not years before anything changes for Internet consumers...





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  Reply # 654950 13-Jul-2012 10:58 Send private message

So word on the street now is that one of the first services to officially go will be the gaming services (assume that means on3 /steam/unmetered). If/when that happens I will most likely have to shift ISP or face massive data prices.



crazed: Will be interesting to see what happens to TCL's unmetered content, Game Servers etc, as Vodafone is reknown for being rather Anti that.


If you read my post earlier these services will be the first to be given the axe and will be a very disappointing loss


Can you provide evidence of this "word on the street"? From whom did it come from? Please can you show us the official comms?

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  Reply # 654959 13-Jul-2012 11:22 Send private message

mthand: Can you provide evidence of this "word on the street"? From whom did it come from? Please can you show us the official comms?


I think at this stage its only speculation from TCL fans who despise Vodafone. Vodafone want to keep the huge number of cusotmers they have now essentially purchased (wow that makes TCL customers sound like products not consumers) so they will need to be very carefull what they axe and what they don't as they may end up losing some of their investment.




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  Reply # 654978 13-Jul-2012 11:46 Send private message

Whatever changes Vodafone have in mind, it is going to take a good 6 months to a year just to align the two organisations before they start happening ... so I wouldn't be getting my knickers up in a twist about it just yet.

The only thing they'll be able to do initially is make some bulk sackings, probably in sales and marketing.  They will likely need to keep the engineers around as they know TCL's networks etc. and it would not be cost effective to merge the networks into one as it would mean replacing far too much infrastructure.

Of course this is entirely speculation but is based on my experience with large mergers/takeovers.  I am sure that Vodafone (globally) are fairly well practiced at this kind of thing, if someone cares to do a little research on how they've handled it elsewhere it might give some good clues, although my understanding is that Vodafone NZ are a little more autonomous than most of the VF subsidiaries.

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