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Topic # 106330 22-Jul-2012 16:02 Send private message

Hello, Im thinking about switching to Telstra Broadband.

Im with Telecom Xtra atm, the problem is that Telecom Xtra gave me a floating IP, but does change only every 3 or more months LOL....I asked and they said that I just have to wait....when will happen, Ill see a new IP lol


So, Telstra: is possible to have a variable IP? That changes for every connection/reconnection???

Pls pls pls :)

MikY:)

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  Reply # 659944 22-Jul-2012 16:44 Send private message

Telstra Cable Broadband is static IP.

What/Who are you trying to hide from with a dynamic IP?

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  Reply # 659945 22-Jul-2012 16:44 Send private message

I guess the most obvious question is why you want this?

If it's in the belief you can do dodgy things on the internet and avoid things such as the 3 strikes law your logic is quite flawed.






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  Reply # 659949 22-Jul-2012 16:49 Send private message

damianh: Telstra Cable Broadband is static IP.
   


Thank You...so even Telsra, is doing False advertising???

http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/residential/homeplan/packages/optional-extras-broadband.cfm

 
Static IP Address - $5.00 per monthAll TelstraClear broadband users are automatically given an IP address when your broadband is connected and this will change each time a connection is made. Some people may require the same or a 'static' IP address however most people will not need this. The most common reason for requiring a static IP address is if you have your own mail or web-hosting server or for security reasons when working remotely.

  

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  Reply # 659954 22-Jul-2012 16:52 Send private message

No they are advertising their "Homeplan customer" can get a static IP for $5 a month.

This is not the INHOME Cable Broadband customers.



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  Reply # 659955 22-Jul-2012 16:52 Send private message

sbiddle: I guess the most obvious question is why you want this?

If it's in the belief you can do dodgy things on the internet and avoid things such as the 3 strikes law your logic is quite flawed.



LOL no no...is becouse with a static IP, some people are able to flood you, or doing other things to you. When they get to know your IP, if its static. And I suppose you know, its not too hard to find out IPs.

Its all about privacy and security for myself.

Mmmm about the 3 strikes law, if you do anything bad, you will get caught ...static or not static IP, becouse your provider does know what is your IP at all times

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  Reply # 659956 22-Jul-2012 16:54 Send private message

That could happen to anyone.  You have to annoyed a lot of people if you are trying to hide.

How about a firewall?

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  Reply # 659957 22-Jul-2012 16:54 Send private message

Flase advertising because they're giving you something for free that they say costs $5?

The DSL network is also very different to the HFC network. On cable authentication is MAC based to the modem and uses a static IP in the router. It is not PPP based.

Most people see a static IP as a plus in this world, which is why we've asked why you want to see it as a negative. The most common reason is because people want to try and do things that are dodgy or illegal - however because ISP's know exactly what users have an IP address it a regularly changing IP won't stop you from being identified.




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  Reply # 659960 22-Jul-2012 17:01 Send private message

 

Most people see a static IP as a plus in this world, which is why we've asked why you want to see it as a negative. The most common reason is because people want to try and do things that are dodgy or illegal - however because ISP's know exactly what users have an IP address it a regularly changing IP won't stop you from being identified.



Correct, as I said Im not trying to do anything dodgy haha...afterall every provider will be able to trace you if you did. 

As I said its all about MY privacy: if I surf a website, they will know who i am..where im from bla bla bla...this with a static IP (that i dont really like)...

With a floating IP, no one will be able to trace me, so Ill have my privacy. JUST my provider will be able to know what Im doing...but at least I hope they wont send my informations to others. 





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  Reply # 659964 22-Jul-2012 17:07 Send private message

Example to make clear. If you were owners of this site, you would be able to get already my IP. With a static IP, you would be able to get into my computer or check when Im connected or not....if i dont use antivirus or firewall. With a static IP, I would be the "perfect target" for bad people/criminals. Not that you are bad people ahahah...but you never know who is hidding under the screen.

With a floating IP, everytime I turn my computer off, my Internet Provider will change my IP. So you bad guys (example ahaha) wouldnt be able to check on me anymore...or doing anything dodgy to me. 





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  Reply # 659968 22-Jul-2012 17:13 Send private message

What about cookies or malicious script that is installed on your pc because you have no virus checker or firewall?

Your Network card Mac address doesn't change, so whats not to say that is advertised when you surf the internet?


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  Reply # 659975 22-Jul-2012 17:29 Send private message

sbnmiky: With a floating IP, everytime I turn my computer off, my Internet Provider will change my IP. So you bad guys (example ahaha) wouldnt be able to check on me anymore...or doing anything dodgy to me. 



With DHCP your IP *may* change each time your modem/router is rebooted. Your PC has nothing to do with this since your PC merely connects to your router.

A large number of ISP's have all moved to stick DHCP in the last year anyway as it makes S92 compliance easier. This means your IP won't change even though you don't (for all intent purposes) have a static IP.




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  Reply # 659986 22-Jul-2012 17:43 Send private message

sbiddle: 
A large number of ISP's have all moved to stick DHCP in the last year anyway as it makes S92 compliance easier. This means your IP won't change even though you don't (for all intent purposes) have a static IP.



Thank you guys...great support :)

Mmmm last question for the night ahahah...what is s92? Do u have a link? I've done some researches too, to confirm that ALL NZ Providers are moving (have already moved) into static IPs.

Must be for some international laws?? 

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  Reply # 659990 22-Jul-2012 17:53 Send private message

All providers aren't moving to static IP's though.

There is a big difference between providing a customer a static IP and stick DHCP lease.


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  Reply # 660022 22-Jul-2012 19:30 Send private message

sbnmiky: Example to make clear. If you were owners of this site, you would be able to get already my IP. With a static IP, you would be able to get into my computer or check when Im connected or not....if i dont use antivirus or firewall. With a static IP, I would be the "perfect target" for bad people/criminals. Not that you are bad people ahahah...but you never know who is hidding under the screen.

With a floating IP, everytime I turn my computer off, my Internet Provider will change my IP. So you bad guys (example ahaha) wouldnt be able to check on me anymore...or doing anything dodgy to me. 



You mean "dynamic" IP, not "floating".

A static IP doesn't make you more of target then dynamic IP. I have the same IP for the last ten years and never had a problem.

Bad guys don't target your IP. Bad guys rely on a trojan planted on your PC that will do outbound connections and get new instructions instead of waiting for inbound connections.

I think you have some flawed concepts in computer security and need to read up a bit more on that.








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  Reply # 660033 22-Jul-2012 19:47 Send private message



I think you have some flawed concepts in computer security and need to read up a bit more on that.




Mmmm ok ok ...so I'll be clear LOL....I'm a bad guy...needs to change my IPs in order to attack others...as they first guys said, im proudly an hacker.

I would be safe with variable or static IP ahahah....but I do need a variable IP for other reasons....

happy now??????????

After said that, are you going to help me, in finding a NZ provider with a non-static IP???


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