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  Reply # 726802 4-Dec-2012 13:28 Send private message

cyril7: Hi, yes and no, probably more yes.

Cyril


Hi cyril,
Thanks. Is there a programme to underground the lines? (Too lazy to Google the answer.)

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  Reply # 726809 4-Dec-2012 13:40 Send private message

wellygary:
DarthKermit: Just a quick question: do most older streets in Wellington still have above ground phone and power cables?


Power yes,

Most phone trunk wiring is actually underground, but the final drop to the house is overhead, (it will pop up a pole and then go overhead to the house) 


My view would be:

Power - 99-100% of power is overhead

Chorus Copper - As above the vast majority is underground and then follows the power up and has a termination point to have overhead copper to the house

TelstraClear cable - 90% overhead, except where neighbourhoods complained about the ugly overhead cables and Telstra buried them.. But this is by far and above the exception rather than the rule.

Newer subdivisions (~mid 80's or so to now) everything is underground including ducting, hence why Chorus can now semi-easily pull fibre into areas such as Churton Park so they are year 1 UFB rollout areas.

Telstraclear haven't extended their cable network into newer subdivisions for the last 10 years or so.  So those areas are serviced by copper.. Or if it's a recent build in the new BoF areas you can only get Fibre Internet & Phone from World XChange.

And a program to underground everything... Doubt it... Unless you've got a spare hundred billion or so..




I work for Telecom Spark, but as always my views are my own.

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  Reply # 726823 4-Dec-2012 14:24 Send private message

plambrechtsen:
wellygary:
DarthKermit: Just a quick question: do most older streets in Wellington still have above ground phone and power cables?


Power yes,

Most phone trunk wiring is actually underground, but the final drop to the house is overhead, (it will pop up a pole and then go overhead to the house) 


My view would be:

Power - 99-100% of power is overhead

Chorus Copper - As above the vast majority is underground and then follows the power up and has a termination point to have overhead copper to the house

TelstraClear cable - 90% overhead, except where neighbourhoods complained about the ugly overhead cables and Telstra buried them.. But this is by far and above the exception rather than the rule.

Newer subdivisions (~mid 80's or so to now) everything is underground including ducting, hence why Chorus can now semi-easily pull fibre into areas such as Churton Park so they are year 1 UFB rollout areas.

Telstraclear haven't extended their cable network into newer subdivisions for the last 10 years or so.  So those areas are serviced by copper.. Or if it's a recent build in the new BoF areas you can only get Fibre Internet & Phone from World XChange.

And a program to underground everything... Doubt it... Unless you've got a spare hundred billion or so..


Thanks for that info. Where I live (Palmy Nth), probably 95+% of streets have underground power and phone now. This was initiated back when there were still council-owned power boards, 20+? years ago. Never happen now as it's all about profit.

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  Reply # 727122 4-Dec-2012 22:57 Send private message

I remember when I worked at TCL (and Paradise beforehand), people were always complaining about Saturn's cables but never did anything to help them, ie, subscribe so they could afford to put it underground! Some group called CORA (from memory) took them to court a few times but I don't know why they bothered...
I also remember hearing while working at Telstra Saturn (around 10 years ago) the cost to lay the cable overground was around $18 000 p/km; to underground it was $68 000 p/km, but I have no idea how accurate those figures were.



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  Reply # 827586 29-May-2013 10:58 Send private message

Hey team,

(I know TelstraClear has now moved forums and been locked but this one topic has been left open)

So this is still ongoing, one call I get told yer look into the "broken pole on your street" and we will go from there, then the next person says "no, we dont upgrade people".

but the pole has been demed safe by Wellington lines so I guess im halfway there.

really just after some good news;

have you every heard of anyone getting upgraded from ADSL to Cable on request?

or

know any other provides that will (it has got to that point for me, I have been as loyal as I can)

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  Reply # 828088 30-May-2013 05:43 Send private message

Upgrade from cable to ADSL? What do you mean? They're two very different technologies.



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  Reply # 828238 30-May-2013 12:20 Send private message

As per my opening post, I have ADSL but live inside the Cable network, as such I would like to be connected to the cable network.

Please read other comments regarding the issues around my situation.

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