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Topic # 107638 15-Aug-2012 14:32 Send private message

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/14/microsoft-surface-199/

If this is true...  I will surely be lining up for one.

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  Reply # 672866 15-Aug-2012 14:53 Send private message

Agreed, at that price I'll be interested. 

I've said before I wasn't much of fan of Surface. I think the Asus Transformer series does something similar on better hardware. 

But if US$199 equates with about NZ$430 to NZ$450 as with the Nexus 7, then one will be on my shopping list. 

The thing is that this is a rumour, and there are plenty of good reasons for it not to be true. 




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  Reply # 672869 15-Aug-2012 15:05 Send private message

It does sound almost too good to be true.
Though if this is a false rumour, MS would do well to stamp on it because they will piss a lot of people off by saying nothing then releasing it at $300+

A press release saying that the Surface RT will NOT be $199 is all it would take.

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  Reply # 672879 15-Aug-2012 15:12 Send private message

crackrdbycracku:But if US$199 equates with about NZ$430 to NZ$450 as with the Nexus 7, then one will be on my shopping list.? ?


$199 US is only $250 NZ. But then you have to add on GST which takes it to $290, and then frieght and probably extra margins for importers and retailers, would probably take it closer to $400NZ

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  Reply # 672886 15-Aug-2012 15:19 Send private message

It would fly at $399. $349 would be better.

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  Reply # 672888 15-Aug-2012 15:22 Send private message

It has to be cheaper than the ipad which it is competing against.

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  Reply # 672896 15-Aug-2012 15:34 Send private message

Anything comparable to the Nexus 7, $199 in the US and $439 here, will have it flying off the shelves. Straight currency conversions aren't really much of a guide to the likely sale price.

Even if you are not going to be using the keyboard it is still a 10" tablet. 

Even at NZ$450 it is way cheaper than the cheapest iPad, $729 at Noel Leeming. It isn't 'half the price' but it isn't far off. 

The bigger question is if this is anything more than hot air. Google is rumoured to be barely breaking even on the Nexus 7 and Surface looks like it would cost more to build. 

Maybe the idea with this 'leak' is to generate interest and some positive press for Win8. 

Hmm, guess they can tick that box. 




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  Reply # 672902 15-Aug-2012 15:43 Send private message

trig42: It would fly at $399. $349 would be better.

Nah, given the N7, it'll probably end up more like $400-$450.


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  Reply # 672903 15-Aug-2012 15:45 Send private message

Hows about MS are trying to stop people making other tablet purchasing decisions by 'leaking' a low cost???? The device is still 2 1/2 months away...'just in time for Christmas'.

Also gives them space to fly this kite and find out what folk are thinking value wise. They don't actually have to post a firm price until much closer to launch, and right now they would probably want people to Focus on the 'Surface' rather than a possible new ipad offering


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  Reply # 672910 15-Aug-2012 15:55 Send private message

US$199 for a 10 inch tablet with built in keyboard case vs $199 for a 7 inch tablet without.

They will be taking a heavy financial hit to sell them at $199 surely.

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  Reply # 672914 15-Aug-2012 16:06 Send private message

The only way I see this selling at $199 is with some sort of subscription model like Xbox music and Xbox movies just like Xbox sells for $99 in US with Xbox live gold subscription. Even at $499 this is better than the iPad. Quad core CPU, NFC built in, Ultimate build quality, 32GB instead of 16GB, dual MIMO WiFi antennas.

Edit -  personally believe that this will sell bwteen $349 to $449.




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  Reply # 673013 15-Aug-2012 19:58 Send private message

wouldnt touch an RT version i would wait for an X86 version atleast then you can install what ever you want and not locked down to the stupid microsoft rules about what can be installed




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  Reply # 673021 15-Aug-2012 20:28 Send private message

in which case you aren't in the market for a tablet - you are in the market for a laptop replacement.

It is pretty clear that RT is an iPad equivalent, complete with walled garden.
Pro is an ultrabook with removable keyboard.

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  Reply # 673023 15-Aug-2012 20:32 Send private message

wasabi2k: in which case you aren't in the market for a tablet - you are in the market for a laptop replacement.

It is pretty clear that RT is an iPad equivalent, complete with walled garden.
Pro is an ultrabook with removable keyboard.


not at all, the windows tablets will be coming out with x86 using windows 8 rather than windows 8(rt)
versatility of a laptop but portability of a tablet ;)




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  Reply # 673035 15-Aug-2012 21:17 Send private message

billgates: Ultimate build quality, 32GB instead of 16GB, dual MIMO WiFi antennas.

Edit -? personally believe that this will sell bwteen $349 to $449.


You can't say it has a better build quality, because it isn't even for sale yet, and the one shown is just a concept model. We also don't know how well it works, and how reliable it is. The ipad has succeeded and proven itself in those areas, and being all metal and glass it has a very good build quality

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  Reply # 673036 15-Aug-2012 21:17 Send private message

heretohelp: wouldnt touch an RT version i would wait for an X86 version atleast then you can install what ever you want and not locked down to the stupid microsoft rules about what can be installed


stupid Microsoft rules?

mate its an ARM device it doesn't run X86 apps because it can't not because Microsoft doesn't want it to

both Windows 8 and Windows RT support Modern Windows 8 style apps being side loaded without having to go through the Windows Store


Windows RT is a specialised device rather than a General Purpose PC, its great that people have choice


Windows RT is a preconfigured system on certified hardware, with long battery life. Thin, light, and sleek.

Commonality & shared sode with Windows 8 and compatible with most peripherals

Includes Office 2013

features connectivity with Inbox VPN clients; Smartcard and Virtual smartcard

Provides data & app access via Remote Access and full VDI support and is manageable through Exchange Active Sync support and a management infrastructure in the cloud

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