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Topic # 113256 11-Jan-2013 00:02 Send private message

Our windows 7 pc is really slow at booting and opening and loading files, most of the time when i try to load something the computer freezes. I've tried defraging and virus searches.

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  Reply # 743114 11-Jan-2013 02:08 Send private message

Grab the free version of CCleaner from here

and use the default options to delete crap from your pc and registry. See how you go.




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  Reply # 743115 11-Jan-2013 03:23 Send private message

Slow startup is often due to lots of software loading such as Google Update, iTunes (Bonjour and others) , Adobe Reader Quick Launcher, etc.

Some of startup software does not need to run so they could be disabled. That will increase the memory and processing power available to the programs that you do want to run.

CCleaner allows you to see what is there by selecting Tools > Startup.

There are other free programs that you can use to disable startup software:
Msconfig is a basic utility that comes with Windows
Autoruns is more comprehensive and can be downloaded from Microsoft.




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  Reply # 743122 11-Jan-2013 07:45 Send private message

Look at your system tray. If you see lots of icons there then chances are you have lots of programs that you don't need. Uninstall anything you don't need. Then uninstall any toolbars used in browsers.

Make sure you have at least 4GB RAM.

Make sure you only have one antivirus installed.

Run a full Housecall scan.






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  Reply # 743271 11-Jan-2013 13:38 Send private message

Thanks for your suggestions, I used cleaner and found I had heaps of things running at start up so I cleared it and now opening all my files and start up is significantly faster but I can't multitask without it slowing down significantly. I was thinking about upgrading the ram from 4 to 8. Any thoughts?

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  Reply # 743275 11-Jan-2013 13:45 Send private message

jchin888: Thanks for your suggestions, I used cleaner and found I had heaps of things running at start up so I cleared it and now opening all my files and start up is significantly faster but I can't multitask without it slowing down significantly. I was thinking about upgrading the ram from 4 to 8. Any thoughts?


As long as the ram isn't too expensive, you can't really ever go wrong adding more ram.  Although it more sounds like you are putting too much strain on the HDD.  Make sure you have at least 15-20% of your HDD empty, as overfilling your PC can cause it to grind to a halt, especially if you don't have a large amount of ram.



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  Reply # 743284 11-Jan-2013 14:07 Send private message

we have a 1tb hdd and its a bit less than half full.

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  Reply # 743309 11-Jan-2013 14:40 Send private message

Hi,

There are a few more things you can do to help increase the speed of your PC.

Defrag and Optimize your hard drive using a 3rd party application like Ultradefrag or Defraggler, Personally I use Ultradefrag and do full optimization (can take a few hours, and some times you need to run it a few times through), after the initial optimization you can just do a quick defrag and optimize once a month or so to keep the system running good.

I noticed someone has already mentioned CCleaner, which is a good program, I have also been using Temp File Cleaner to remove temp files (including windows prefetch data) and have had good results with it.

The next thing I would do is run a registry cleaner, Eusing Free Registry Cleaner is a good one to have installed, also it keeps track of all the repairs it does so if something brakes after running a repair you can restore it, CCleaner has a registry cleaner built in as well but you have to manually save the registry files if you want to be able to restore them.

Other things to consider are removing unwanted software, Running through a Malwarebytes full scan and removing any PUP (Potentially Unwanted Programs, usually toolbars etc) and a full virus scan as well.

With these general maintenance processes done every month or so you can keep any windows system running within a few % of its initial speed.

Hope this helps.

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  Reply # 743342 11-Jan-2013 15:20 Send private message

Damager: Grab the free version of CCleaner from here

and use the default options to delete crap from your pc and registry. See how you go.


muzzIT: Hi,

There are a few more things you can do to help increase the speed of your PC.

Defrag and Optimize your hard drive using a 3rd party application like Ultradefrag or Defraggler, Personally I use Ultradefrag and do full optimization (can take a few hours, and some times you need to run it a few times through), after the initial optimization you can just do a quick defrag and optimize once a month or so to keep the system running good.

I noticed someone has already mentioned CCleaner, which is a good program, I have also been using Temp File Cleaner to remove temp files (including windows prefetch data) and have had good results with it.

The next thing I would do is run a registry cleaner, Eusing Free Registry Cleaner is a good one to have installed, also it keeps track of all the repairs it does so if something brakes after running a repair you can restore it, CCleaner has a registry cleaner built in as well but you have to manually save the registry files if you want to be able to restore them.

Other things to consider are removing unwanted software, Running through a Malwarebytes full scan and removing any PUP (Potentially Unwanted Programs, usually toolbars etc) and a full virus scan as well.

With these general maintenance processes done every month or so you can keep any windows system running within a few % of its initial speed.

Hope this helps.


Personally i would steer clear of Registry cleaners, unless you know what you are doing.  This Eusing Free Registry Cleaner sounds nice that it has a roll back option though.  But even so i would not use one.

I have seen issues with some programs after clients have run registry cleaners over their systems. 

Rather than running programs that clean up the system I would be focusing my attention to what the cause of the speed issue is first.

Running built in programs such as Task Manager and Performance Monitor to see where the issue lies first would be best.
Is the CPU being maxed out by a process?
Is the system paging due to lack of RAM?
Is the disk read/write queues being extended due to a process or program?

Once you have eliminated these as issues you can then look at cleaning up the computer of unwanted programs, de-fragmenting system drives.
Failure to check the first things could mean you are masking the speed issues by optimizing other areas, but not fixing the main issue. So although you see a performance increase you are not fixing the issue.

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  Reply # 743354 11-Jan-2013 15:25 Send private message

for future reference i found the following article:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/6152/use-advanced-tools-to-troubleshoot-performance-problems-in-windows-7/


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  Reply # 743375 11-Jan-2013 15:43 Send private message

jaymz: for future reference i found the following article:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/6152/use-advanced-tools-to-troubleshoot-performance-problems-in-windows-7/



Just had a quick read through the above article, while I did know about the resource monitor and performance monitor, there are a few things listed in that article that I did not know and will use for future reference.

Thanks for the link Jaymz, it was very informative

and you are correct in stating that finding out what is causing the issue in the first place is a better place to start as by running defrag and optimization you could be just masking the issue.

How ever in my experience the topical reason for a system running slow is either lack of memory (and the OP has 4GB which is sufficient for windows 7) or the system is clogged up with unwanted / unused programs, malware / viruses (one of the biggest causes of memory wastage), temp files, fragmented hard drive and bag registry entries.

Another thing you can do to help with system performance is to not have icons all over your desktop, every icon that needs to be loaded takes up memory, the less icons you have the less memory you use, now while this might not seem like a big thing, it can make a noticeable difference in the overall performance of you system.

Murray.



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  Reply # 743386 11-Jan-2013 15:58 Send private message

muzzIT:

Just had a quick read through the above article, while I did know about the resource monitor and performance monitor, there are a few things listed in that article that I did not know and will use for future reference.

Thanks for the link Jaymz, it was very informative

and you are correct in stating that finding out what is causing the issue in the first place is a better place to start as by running defrag and optimization you could be just masking the issue.

How ever in my experience the topical reason for a system running slow is either lack of memory (and the OP has 4GB which is sufficient for windows 7) or the system is clogged up with unwanted / unused programs, malware / viruses (one of the biggest causes of memory wastage), temp files, fragmented hard drive and bag registry entries.

Another thing you can do to help with system performance is to not have icons all over your desktop, every icon that needs to be loaded takes up memory, the less icons you have the less memory you use, now while this might not seem like a big thing, it can make a noticeable difference in the overall performance of you system.

Murray.



No worries, it is always great to share experiences and tips and tricks amongst IT professionals.  There is many ways to "skin a cat" when it comes to troubleshooting and fixing computer issues, especially ones as vague as "my pc is slow"

I have personally found the performance and reliability monitor quite useful, and have thus enabled it on all the servers i look after. (enabling it on servers requires a couple of registry changes - Microsoft logic!)

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  Reply # 743450 11-Jan-2013 17:58 Send private message

jchin888: Thanks for your suggestions, I used cleaner and found I had heaps of things running at start up so I cleared it and now opening all my files and start up is significantly faster but I can't multitask without it slowing down significantly. I was thinking about upgrading the ram from 4 to 8. Any thoughts?


Adding more than 4GB is unlikely to help with your problem getting programs to "multitask":
  • There's not much of the usual software that combines to require more than 4GB of RAM. Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint) + email will run fine in that. So do you have some humungous application that you run?
  • If the disk light is on/flashing all the time then you may have disk thrashing as Windows moves item in and out of virtual memory which is stored on the disk. You haven't mentioned that, and it is quite obvious, so it is unlikely to be the problem.
  • If you're running 32-bit Windows 7 then anything above 4GB will be of little use. More than 4GB is most useful for 64-bit Windows which can access it as one flat memory space.
Assuming, you haven't used all your physical RAM, the multitasking issue suggests that you have some sort of conflict or contention such as lack of disk space, software monitoring the registry, etc. So some more info on what is happening would help.

For a start, run Task Manager to see what's using your processing power, memory and disk.




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  Reply # 744939 15-Jan-2013 11:16 Send private message

Most issues I have had with horrific slow performance I have had to look at recently have been dead/dying harddisks. Even pre smart warnings it has a serious slowdown on the computer.

Easiest fix is clear out all the crap off the OS drive, get a SSD and clone it over ;)




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