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  Reply # 901757 24-Sep-2013 10:49 One person supports this post Send private message

The Surface Pro 2 is far better value than the other i5 W8 tablets on the local market, its not an ipad competitor at all, it is a ultra portable workhorse, yes i want one and no unfortunately i can afford :(

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  Reply # 901774 24-Sep-2013 11:19 2 people support this post Send private message

I think the pricing is about 25% too high across the range of devices. (but the accessories seems to be priced ok).

As a surface user I have been hanging out for the dock. Only question I have is how does a keyboard work with it? Please don't tell me a Bluetooth keyboard is required because Windows 8.1 Preview has absolutely horrid (in my opinion) BT support, especially if multiple devices are active.




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  Reply # 901787 24-Sep-2013 11:29 Send private message

when you connect your Surface Pro / Surface Pro 2 into the Dock, you can still use the Type Cover/Touch Cover keyboard, that sits flat on the desk

or you could have a wireless/wired keyboard plugged into the docking station USB

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  Reply # 901794 24-Sep-2013 11:37 One person supports this post Send private message

By the way just because I think it's expensive doesn't mean I don't think it's great kit. If money was no object I'd certainly love to get one and have a play...it's a covetable device :)

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  Reply # 901814 24-Sep-2013 11:54 Send private message

gehenna: By the way just because I think it's expensive doesn't mean I don't think it's great kit. If money was no object I'd certainly love to get one and have a play...it's a covetable device :)


As far as the Pro goes I completely agree. If you look at the Ultrabooks under $1500 it is pretty slim pickings. I would say in that class the Surface Pro 2 presents a value proposition as good or better than Ultrabooks around it's price on build quality, the ability to use it as a tablet, battery life and accessories. 

But, and it is a big 'but', that presupposes you need iCore 5 power and have $1600 to buy a new computer with.  




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  Reply # 901815 24-Sep-2013 11:54 Send private message

Microsoft should just do a rigid hinge battery dock option like on the Envy x2. The thing I like about my Envy x2 is the rigid hinge battery dock that makes it run 1-2 days without charge, that turns it into a laptop, and the fact it is fanless.

It's also expensive when it comes to tablets, especially when you factor in the amount of accessories you will need to 'be productive'




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  Reply # 901837 24-Sep-2013 12:15 Send private message

networkn: Gah! $1449 for the Pro2!


Same price as the 11-inch MacBook Air and the MBA comes with 802.11 ac WiFi ... and a keyboard.





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  Reply # 901842 24-Sep-2013 12:19 Send private message

and a crap non-touch screen

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  Reply # 901855 24-Sep-2013 12:36 Send private message

Considering going after a normal pro, jb are selling 128gb for 1188 $250 less than a pro 2, do I really want to pay 250 more for a couple hours battery life, and unnoticeable processing speed?

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  Reply # 901861 24-Sep-2013 12:46 2 people support this post Send private message

nathan: and a crap non-touch screen


Why would anyone wish to smear their fingers over the screen anyway?





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  Reply # 901867 24-Sep-2013 12:53 Send private message

rhetorical question?

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  Reply # 901869 24-Sep-2013 12:55 Send private message

GPU is much better in the Surface Pro 2 with the Intel HD4400

Surface Pro 2 will replace Surface Pro, where as both Surface RT and Surface 2 will continue to be available

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  Reply # 901878 24-Sep-2013 13:04 Send private message

gehenna: By the way just because I think it's expensive doesn't mean I don't think it's great kit. If money was no object I'd certainly love to get one and have a play...it's a covetable device :)


I don't have any issue affording it, just justifying it. 


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  Reply # 901905 24-Sep-2013 13:54 Send private message

nathan: when you connect your Surface Pro / Surface Pro 2 into the Dock, you can still use the Type Cover/Touch Cover keyboard, that sits flat on the desk

or you could have a wireless/wired keyboard plugged into the docking station USB


excellent, thanks for that.  No Bluetooth :)

Usually I just remote into the surface anyhow on the principle that I am too lazy to plug in the HDMI adaptor thingy - one of my pet wants for windows 8.1 is to allow for being able to get the screen magnification right when remoting in (its the old 100% too small on the surface, 135% too large remoting in issue).  Seems to work ok when switching between the surface screen and an external screen, but not when moving to a remote desktop.





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  Reply # 901940 24-Sep-2013 14:45 Send private message

Does the dock support multiple monitors...I see a single MiniDisplay Port on the specs for it...




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