Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.



7786 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 507

Trusted

Topic # 138297 29-Dec-2013 11:13 Send private message

Hi I have a new Asus Transformer T100 that has nearly driven me mad as does most windows products ...

I have discovered that my Asus Transformer tablet does not support S1-S4 state sleep through powercfg query ...

Why is that?" How can I change that? Should I return it?

Create new topic
BDFL
49923 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4622

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

  Reply # 958567 29-Dec-2013 11:28 Send private message

Have you asked ASUS support yet?




2575 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 351

Trusted
Microsoft NZ

  Reply # 958592 29-Dec-2013 13:04 Send private message

can I ask what you want to achieve?

this model supports InstantGo (formerly known as Connected Standby in Windows 8) 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn481224(v=vs.85).aspx


427 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 44


  Reply # 958619 29-Dec-2013 15:35 Send private message

My samsung windows 8 hybrid uses connected standby, its 2GB 32bit model, I don't believe 64bit is currently suported, you haven't reloaded 64bit have you? (Probably not otherwise it would probably be using S3 sleep)



7786 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 507

Trusted

  Reply # 958729 29-Dec-2013 18:20 Send private message

I'm asking Asus but they're shut at the moment. Thought perhaps out is normal for tablets to do this but yup will ask Asus when they are open



7786 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 507

Trusted

  Reply # 958731 29-Dec-2013 18:22 Send private message

nathan: can I ask what you want to achieve?

this model supports InstantGo (formerly known as Connected Standby in Windows 8) 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn481224(v=vs.85).aspx



I want to achieve the lowest power consumption when I'm not using it!



7786 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 507

Trusted

  Reply # 963277 8-Jan-2014 14:10 Send private message

thought i'd summarise what my international adventures have discovered

1) windows 8.1 tablets have what's called "connected standby/standby connected" which is a state of sleep that SHOULD achieve 5% battery drain per day giving at least 20 days of standby per full charge.

2) this may be called all sorts of things by manufacturers eg ïnstant go. tablets that have this mode is technically not compatible with normal sleep modes and negates the need for hibernation. hence power behaviour is very weird

3) it's weird because it doesnt always work. some people complain of battery drain of 100% within hours with their tablets. sometimes the wifi stays on (very common) although it really should be off to achieve max efficiency. for me even my keyboard dock and dock USB 3 stays on! hence marriage of software and hardware drivers is problematic at this stage (i don't see it improving really, look at android, always have always will be a minefield)

4) my tablet has just had every single driver and bios updated by ASUS. i don't have time to do any sleep testing but it seems my tablet actually sleeps properly despite powercfg not reporting any sleep or the wifi and keyboard dock stays on, i can achieve very good standby times (haven't had time to measure).

if the 2014 ipad doesn't improve on its functionality watch out!

785 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 63


  Reply # 963286 8-Jan-2014 14:26 Send private message

Seems like it's normal behaviour, and Connected Standby supersedes the S1-S4 states on this system?

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/PowerCfgTheHiddenEnergyAndBatteryToolForWindowsYoureNotUsing.aspx

I didn't know about Powercfg until your post, an interesting utility. There is a good section in the Scott Hanselman post about the /sleepstudy parameter for connected standby devices

2575 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 351

Trusted
Microsoft NZ

  Reply # 963362 8-Jan-2014 16:39 Send private message

joker97: thought i'd summarise what my international adventures have discovered

1) windows 8.1 tablets have what's called "connected standby/standby connected" which is a state of sleep that SHOULD achieve 5% battery drain per day giving at least 20 days of standby per full charge.

2) this may be called all sorts of things by manufacturers eg ïnstant go. tablets that have this mode is technically not compatible with normal sleep modes and negates the need for hibernation. hence power behaviour is very weird

3) it's weird because it doesnt always work. some people complain of battery drain of 100% within hours with their tablets. sometimes the wifi stays on (very common) although it really should be off to achieve max efficiency. for me even my keyboard dock and dock USB 3 stays on! hence marriage of software and hardware drivers is problematic at this stage (i don't see it improving really, look at android, always have always will be a minefield)

4) my tablet has just had every single driver and bios updated by ASUS. i don't have time to do any sleep testing but it seems my tablet actually sleeps properly despite powercfg not reporting any sleep or the wifi and keyboard dock stays on, i can achieve very good standby times (haven't had time to measure).

if the 2014 ipad doesn't improve on its functionality watch out!


Its called Connected Standby in Windows 8 and has been renamed to InstantGo in Windows 8.1

BDFL
49923 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4622

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

  Reply # 963423 8-Jan-2014 18:28 Send private message

Interesting. My ASUS supports ConnectedStandby (PowerCFG seems to be using the old name), so I removed the hibernate file (powercfg -hibernate off) and that saved me 2.5GB on my SSD...





2575 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 351

Trusted
Microsoft NZ

  Reply # 963473 8-Jan-2014 19:30 Send private message

SSD ;) its actually eMMC

BDFL
49923 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4622

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

  Reply # 963475 8-Jan-2014 19:31 Send private message

Correct... Still, solid state.




2575 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 351

Trusted
Microsoft NZ

  Reply # 963480 8-Jan-2014 19:35 Send private message

SSD sounds faster ;)

BDFL
49923 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4622

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

  Reply # 963487 8-Jan-2014 19:38 Send private message

Faster than most HDD anyway.





Create new topic




Twitter »
Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





Trending now »

Hot discussions in our forums right now:

Spark Socialiser
Created by freitasm, last reply by freitasm on 22-Oct-2014 18:39 (34 replies)
Pages... 2 3


American legal jurisdiction in New Zealand
Created by ajobbins, last reply by gzt on 21-Oct-2014 14:58 (30 replies)
Pages... 2


iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3. Gonna get one?
Created by Dingbatt, last reply by dickytim on 24-Oct-2014 06:25 (103 replies)
Pages... 5 6 7


Snap have failed our company!
Created by dafman, last reply by kornflake on 23-Oct-2014 17:41 (37 replies)
Pages... 2 3


Thief taunts 12 year old via stolen laptop
Created by macuser, last reply by charsleysa on 22-Oct-2014 23:49 (12 replies)

Another Trade Me competitor: SellShed
Created by freitasm, last reply by freitasm on 23-Oct-2014 19:00 (44 replies)
Pages... 2 3


22nd Only: PB Tech BROTHER HL1110 Mono laser Printer $15 shipped(after $30 cashback)
Created by loceff13, last reply by loceff13 on 23-Oct-2014 08:55 (23 replies)
Pages... 2


Just bought a TiVo online. No wireless adaptor. Will a standard one work? Or do I need the TiVo one ?
Created by Limerick, last reply by graemeh on 20-Oct-2014 16:03 (11 replies)


Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.