Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.



1925 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 15

Trusted
Subscriber

Topic # 138371 1-Jan-2014 12:23 One person supports this post Send private message

I've got a factory installed Win 8 (now updated to 8.1). Sony will not provide an upgrade to Win 7 so I'm stuck with this for the foreseeable future. Normally I try to work with tech as an OOtB approach but this is such a hateful operating system I'm going to have to do something to fix it, if there are some quick wins that people have used I would appreciate it before I inevitably brick the thing.

View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5
954 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 46


  Reply # 959857 1-Jan-2014 12:27 Send private message

Maybe you can be more specific as to exactly the issues you have.

You can boot the OS straight to desktop mode in 8.1

Another helpful hint is that by right clicking on the start button you can access command prompt, control panel and other useful features.

2391 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 292
Inactive user


  Reply # 959858 1-Jan-2014 12:27 Send private message

- Install Classic start menu
- Uninstall as many of the Metro apps as possible
- Boot to Desktop



19200 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1078

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 959859 1-Jan-2014 12:27 One person supports this post Send private message

What do you find so annoying?

Once you've installed a start menu replacement it's basically just Windows 7.1 - with plenty of bug fixes and better performance.





1925 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 15

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 959861 1-Jan-2014 12:38 Send private message

Note: have implemented the following to run XP and 7 under Hyper-V. I had to use a couple of my licenses for this, but at least I have a work around to some aspects of Win 8.

http://4sysops.com/archives/windows-8-xp-mode-part-1-hyper-v/

19200 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1078

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 959868 1-Jan-2014 13:01 Send private message

Maybe you could actually explain what you find so annoying or limiting about Windows8.

Like you I hated it when I first started playing with it. I had no option with my new laptop in August because HP Win7 Haswell drivers were a month behind the new Probooks which launched in NZ first.

Within days I actually found Windows 8 a far superior operating system to Windows 7 in many ways and with a start menu replacement for all intent purposes pretty much everything functions exactly the same way.

I actually find the Metro mode the cumbersome solution - Metro apps work great on a touchpad device, but there are so many things on touchpad devices that still require desktop mode to function.



1925 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 15

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 959870 1-Jan-2014 13:13 Send private message

Key problems:

• Touchpad opening sidebars from left and right, I can find no way to stop this
• Keyboard shortcuts and quick access features, i.e. start menu and bars (addressed by http://classicshell.net/), this is a real win, thanks team
• No XP mode (addressed by link above)
• I can't go back to IE9 (some SharePoint functions do not work in 10 and above, somewhat ironic) workaround using "Win7 Mode", to open IE 8

Note: I have no animosity to the metro world. When I'm not working I switch to this mode and it's a fine enough tablet.

BDFL
49104 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4126

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

  Reply # 959874 1-Jan-2014 13:18 Send private message

I use Windows 8.1 on my HP laptop. It's faster than Windows 7 on the same hardware (SSD and plenty of RAM available).

On this laptop I simply installed Start8, removed all Modern UI apps and use it like I would use Windows 7.

On my tablet I am taking a different approach. Since touch is available I am trying to use ONLY Modern UI apps (a bit of a pain because somethings are only available in classical applications).





19200 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1078

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 959877 1-Jan-2014 13:32 Send private message

lyonrouge: Key problems:

• Touchpad opening sidebars from left and right, I can find no way to stop this


If you have a touchpad that supports multitouch then gestures will be enabled by default. You can disable these in the Synaptics touchpad settings.






1925 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 15

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 959886 1-Jan-2014 13:46 Send private message

sbiddle:
lyonrouge: Key problems:

• Touchpad opening sidebars from left and right, I can find no way to stop this


If you have a touchpad that supports multitouch then gestures will be enabled by default. You can disable these in the Synaptics touchpad settings.





This does not appear to be a Synaptics feature.


6469 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 384

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 959910 1-Jan-2014 14:57 Send private message

I installed W8.1 trial this morning on a spare disk to see how it is. I really didn't like metro, but using one of those start menu replacement programs it basically works like W7. I'll upgrade if and when I need to, mostly for ReFS and storage spaces.

How do you tell W8.1 to boot directly to the desktop?




Asus eee pad transformer
iPod 2G
Windows 7 PC
Lots and lots of Nikon camera gear



1925 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 15

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 959926 1-Jan-2014 15:27 Send private message

Does anyone know how to decouple or disable the startup password. I had a local account in 8, but during 8.1 update, I inadvertently connected to mt hotmail account and now i have to log on at startup.

JWR

54 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 4


  Reply # 959975 1-Jan-2014 16:49 Send private message

timmmay: I installed W8.1 trial this morning on a spare disk to see how it is. I really didn't like metro, but using one of those start menu replacement programs it basically works like W7. I'll upgrade if and when I need to, mostly for ReFS and storage spaces.

How do you tell W8.1 to boot directly to the desktop?


Probably the easiest way is to right-click on the Taskbar in classic Widows Desktop Mode. Select Properties --> Navigation (Tab) --> Select "When I sign in or close all apps on screen, go to desktop instead of start".

1086 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 44

Subscriber

Reply # 959984 1-Jan-2014 16:59 Send private message

lyonrouge: Does anyone know how to decouple or disable the startup password. I had a local account in 8, but during 8.1 update, I inadvertently connected to mt hotmail account and now i have to log on at startup.
on your tile screen type "netplwiz" without the quotes. it will show it. click on it and untick users must login with password, or to that effect. you will see it anyway




HTPC AMD A4-5300 cpu, Gigabyte ga2fa75m-d3h motherboard, , 4GB DDR3 ram, onboard  graphics. Hauppuage HVR 3300 tuner,  Antec 2480B case, Windows 7 home premium 64 bit using media center



1925 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 15

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 959990 1-Jan-2014 17:18 Send private message

Gilco2:
lyonrouge: Does anyone know how to decouple or disable the startup password. I had a local account in 8, but during 8.1 update, I inadvertently connected to mt hotmail account and now i have to log on at startup.
on your tile screen type "netplwiz" without the quotes. it will show it. click on it and untick users must login with password, or to that effect. you will see it anyway


This has been removed in 8.1.

Win 7 vs Win 8.1

1086 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 44

Subscriber

  Reply # 960006 1-Jan-2014 17:27 Send private message

it was still on the one I built for friends using windows 8 Pro then upgrading to Windows 8.1.  I know I was able to set it up so you didnt have to type password to login.  I cant to my tablet to check right now.  But have you right clicked on the taskbar and checked in there as there are many options there as well with Windows 8.1




HTPC AMD A4-5300 cpu, Gigabyte ga2fa75m-d3h motherboard, , 4GB DDR3 ram, onboard  graphics. Hauppuage HVR 3300 tuner,  Antec 2480B case, Windows 7 home premium 64 bit using media center

 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic




Twitter »
Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:




News »

Trending now »
Hot discussions in our forums right now:

MH 17 "shot down" all dead
Created by joker97, last reply by turnin on 22-Jul-2014 16:56 (196 replies)
Pages... 12 13 14


Skinny's new aggressive ad campaign
Created by Yabanize, last reply by mattwnz on 21-Jul-2014 21:57 (49 replies)
Pages... 2 3 4


Huge Fuss, didn't even make it a year.
Created by networkn, last reply by ripdog on 22-Jul-2014 18:22 (120 replies)
Pages... 6 7 8


Cunliffe on Holiday
Created by networkn, last reply by oxnsox on 22-Jul-2014 18:43 (33 replies)
Pages... 2 3


increasing my water pressure
Created by sxz, last reply by Aredwood on 20-Jul-2014 15:25 (16 replies)
Pages... 2


Insulation - good deals?
Created by Fred99, last reply by Handle9 on 19-Jul-2014 18:08 (15 replies)

VDSL router/modem to replace Telecom model
Created by Davoid, last reply by Inphinity on 22-Jul-2014 12:18 (12 replies)

Telecom and temporarily moving
Created by Tel69, last reply by NonprayingMantis on 19-Jul-2014 21:34 (12 replies)


Geekzone Live »
Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.